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Gravitational inertial motor or Who needs Antigravity

I would like to immediately clarify that we are talking about an engine, that is, a motor device that converts any energy (gasoline, electricity ...) into translational motion by interacting with the gravitational field surrounding us. A bit of history. I began to study the theory of gravity in my school years when I realized that modern science did not really know anything about it. I entered the university at the physics department and successfully graduated from it. He worked as a designer of electronic equipment and received a diploma of a patent specialist and metrologist, then perestroika, no matter what he did, continued to collect all possible information, read everything that he could reach and set up experiments by checking pieces of information put together - so the resulting theory has empirical roots. When the understanding of the current processes became complete, I began to turn, mainly via the Internet, to our pundits we managed to find addresses (pay attention to almost all articles on any serious topic without a return address) but there was no answer from anyone. As a result, kind people , I was told that there are many theories and in order to prove its viability it is necessary that it at least explain the processes taking place in the universe. I had to do astronomy, fussed with half a year, somewhat reworked the theory, everything fell into place. Negotiations started again, and again there was a kind person who suggested that the theory is good but not enough, but if I am able to create a device based on my theory that even if it doesn’t fly but without mass ejections and wheel drives will itself move in the chosen direction then it will be one hundred percent proof and then ...

The most difficult thing was to choose on the basis of what to make such a device - although hands grow from where you need it but opportunities ... Hiking to a flea market began with a search for what might suit. I settled on two options as the most affordable - on a solid active body and on a liquid, surfing the Internet in parallel to he will be convinced that no one did this so that they would not be accused of plagiarism, thank God for three months while he was making the cart on a gravity traction, he did not find anything.

It turned out such a design with such giblets. You can see in more detail:

As you probably saw, the trolley runs and runs quite cheerfully, not like eating creeping inertioids despite poorly centered gears and the absence of bearings. The internal structure of the converter itself is very simple took several pictures when disassembling

Two balls run in a circle in a system with a displaced center (which is very clearly seen from the traces of oil). The explanation is also elementary. It is easy to understand. The line С-Д divides the movement of balls into two phases. If we trace the movement from point C, then the ball starts to move with acceleration — the circumference of the segments increases — at a constant speed of rotation of the central shaft, while stick 1 presses the ball while accelerating it and pushing away from it like a boat with an oar from the water, creating a thrust upward momentum the second ball moves with deceleration as the circumference of the segments decreases, while the ball presses on the stick 3 creating a thrust impulse again upwards. That is, when the balls move, thrust is generated in one direction. The second half does not suitable for compensating for the effect of a helicopter. After a year I came across an article on the site (type in Google) A GRAVITALLY INERTIAL ENGINE is POSSIBLE, which describes three device options, one of which is very similar to mine, with the only difference being that the question is posed - is it possible I already built. posted on YouTube. No one was interested. Another version of the gravure of the trolley, built on the basis of a liquid working fluid, did not even expose, and by the chance and breakdown of the computer all the photos and records were lost. The first phase - this can’t be because it can never be - I already felt it on myself. And the good people again say - This is nonsense, take a loan to build a flying model then ... You can try to build, but there are big doubts that even then it will change a lot. Because the forums are mostly chatter, there were those who said that he was a turner and that he would spit for him to create a model, but as soon as it came to help they were suddenly lost. And where I simply can’t imagine where to find sponsors for such a thing. If you are interested in writing, there are studies with a higher mass conversion coefficient and with a change in traction in the selected direction at constant speeds for planar devices. Here is another confirmation of the correctness of my thoughts.

Not quite what I have but still - the address is visible. The question remains - And if the developer of the new is not a research institute containing hundreds of people and eating millions from the state. budget, and a loner is the state or whoever needs it. Strange, but in my life I made the most money on innovations - I was the first to master a technology or master a new technique. True, this is not a trifle, and everyone feels that there is nothing serious yet, the state is silent, and if there are obvious successes ......... After all, in recent years, experimenting, I noticed several very interesting effects related to gravity, say control the rate of natural radiation decay. Say nonsense, and rummage on the Internet and you will easily find the results of experiments in which the same device on different parallels of the earth gives different results significantly exceeding the statistical error, and the difference in the levels of the gravitational field is tiny. Maybe for some it will sound blasphemy, but the acceleration of gravity at different parallels is different, but slightly different. with the last argument I propose to recall that the atomic bomb dropped by the Americans on the moon did not explode, and this experiment was by no means fools.

In one of the experiments, I managed to get more than 20 percent weight loss by an object in a certain chamber. And what kind of change is possible in military affairs ...

And here is the answer to the letter that I sent to the President of Russia with a proposal to continue development at the state level - from which it follows directly that they and only SCIENTISTS will decide whether this is necessary for the state, and those who don’t even understand what the movement is about or rather where does it come from. Try to find at least on the Internet, even in textbooks, the answer to the question - why the untwisted top is stabilized in space, because this phenomenon has been studied and is widely used even in gyroscopes. And there are many such questions, my model also refers to them. From here I recall Krylov’s fable - how things are not useful, the prices without knowing it, the ignoramus about it has all its purpose ...

Simply put, they kicked off, and it’s not surprising if no one can explain why and due to what the model is moving, but you can fantasize like the floor had a slope of as much as one two three degrees and therefore, due to vibration, the model got three kilos weighing in three seconds 10 km an hour or lament that there are not enough measurements taken with the help of special instruments that a simple person simply can’t have at home, and on the basis of this, we conclude that this is an optical illusion and you should not pay attention to it . But most of all, this is similar to the conclusion of the Inquisition which, and only it, can explain everything, and if it cannot be explained, it simply cannot be in principle, and it is not worth looking in that direction.

Well, the last, for those who want to repeat the design and make sure it is working. First, discard the balls as a working fluid for the simple reason that due to rotation during movement, the mass conversion coefficient is too low. Best weight on a telescopic (one or two guides) rods with small wheels at the edges, to reduce drag during movement. Ideally, you can provide for the sliding on the surface of the liquid or oil sprayed in front of the load. I see a lot of improvement options.

But the mathematical justification for this version of the engine. The calculation was made based on the calculation according to the physical formula of centrifugal force. And next, a device was calculated with realistic dimensions and a mass of 10 kilograms of cargo, the diameter of the working area is slightly less than a meter, so R1 is 0.5 meters and R2 is 0.4 meters at 10 revolutions per second ( this is 600 rpm), not so much when you consider that conventional low-speed electric motors make about 1000 rpm. I apologize in advance if something is wrong .....

Well, the thrust with such modest sizes and masses was not a little more than 78 876.8 newtons with a dimension of kg meter per second (a little more than 78 tons). Try to recount yourself, and suddenly I made a mistake because the numbers turned out to be very solid. And this is only with one half of the engine. If you are going to recreate this or a similar engine, write, I will tell you some nuances that I discovered and without which you might not be able to call it. You can call it whatever you like - an inertioid, an inertial engine, or like I am a gravity engine it doesn’t matter.

And one more little appendix. Some comrades call my construction an inertioid, it comes either from ignorance of the material, or from natural dullness. The fact is that in the inertioid there are two pulses in each period, one in the direction of traction and the other smaller in the opposite direction or just impulse of braking. In my design, despite its prostate, there is no reverse or inhibitory impulse, therefore it can be called an engine. Of course, you can call it an impulse, but then you will have to call an internal combustion engine as an impulse, and for some reason it doesn’t occur to anyone .
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Good afternoon pitonpiton0. Thank you for the forest reviews, but the point here is not in non-standard thinking or approach. The approach is usual - invented, created, tried, corrected that if it didn’t work. The main thing is to understand what comes from. So you say and you have an idea, great. All this from the fact that many people feel some kind of abnormality in the surrounding space - spinning tops stabilize in space when untwisted, Here's a joke https://yadi.sk/i/W_Eo5coYVnNTNQ. In the spring, I even had to argue about it with one person, well, I argued rather inside, I did this thread https://yadi.sk/i/K_DHshyrSqLLEA but did not send it. It clearly shows that in the first three frames the center of gravity of the construction of the situation does not change, and it is senseless to convince the one who does not want to see it. And there are a lot of such moments, and I started raking those ones that were related to gravity. And it almost immediately became clear that physics was built not on facts but on theories - the ideas of some people and how this fact happened. Moreover, if the theory correctly describes the event preceding the formation of the fact, then it is possible to build arguments on it further, but if the theory does not correctly describe the events, then this is a dead end. And some comrades, and even more so their followers, uprooted dissent by all available means. Suffice it to recall Giordano Bruno. Yes, and now the same thing is happening. I did not go into science about this until I got real results confirmed by working designs. But this did not interest hereditary academics, at least they would have to revise the fundamentals of physics and, most importantly, make room. And everything is simple and a lot of people feel why and are interested in this topic and are trying to build simple structures. We are not interested in the rich, maybe which of their little sons will want to get a flying car or bike, we are like a bone in the throat for academics. here and cook in its juice. And I'm far from the smartest and not the first, remember at least a coral castle https://yadi.sk/i/ChkHMbGi3ByVfA And also Schauberger Searl, God knows who else. The way out of this situation into a unification of thinkers is realistic. Well, we are creating a new party, look and let's go to the polls. There are certainly more chances than Zherenovsky. The Realist Party - how it sounds.
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Good afternoon, Valentin Pavlovich. Your whole letter is riddled with one thought - I want to understand how it works - from which I personally select the phrase - I WANT. In this article, emphasis was placed on the design, its internal structure, which may in vain inspire those who read it for a simple solution to such a complex issue. Many decided that using a pair of balls and gears it was possible to achieve the desired effect, some tried to assemble the design by introducing the most ridiculous, in my opinion, changes and additions to it. At best, getting a weak effect comparable to the work of inertioids, which they noted in their letters. Other sofa designers, and most of them, tried to prove that this is not possible because they think so. at the same time not even believing what they see with their own eyes on the record,
You claim that you have at your disposal a workshop equipped with the necessary machines and there is an opportunity for work and leisure, in which you can assemble a serious structure and conduct experiments. I am ready to come and work for you, but first you need to solve one question - WHOSE THE CREATED DESIGN WILL BE IN THE END OF EVERYTHING. The man who made an earlier similar proposal believed that the design should be entirely his, because on the basis of his workshop it was created, and he was ready to pay for my work as a hired worker of average qualification. It seems to me that you are interested in a flying structure, but this is just the case when the thrust of the device exceeds the weight of the structure.,I think that it will be possible to create traction from 150 to 250 masses of the working fluid, and although Leonov claims that this ratio can be on the order of 700, I do not agree with him, the mass of the device begins to grow due to the necessary mechanical strength, having machines capable of solving the vibration problem is worth it right away move on to creating volumetric devices. I am waiting for an answer and if you are ready for a ratio of 50-50 I am waiting for the address. I warn you right away that the question of the theory of gravity is not included in the questions of the contract.
An interesting topic, except for some points I will join one of the comments that thank God that there are still people who can think outside the box, not paying attention to the criticism (albeit very useful) of the lack of funds (for the cond for the engine of the next model) and other obstacles. Reading took a lot of time but I do not regret it. Thanks to all participants in the discussion and we will wait for continuation - somewhere already at the level of quantum physics or at the intersection of sciences? I’d just like to wish the author to switch to smaller models - with autonomous power, and the results would be clearer and cheaper IMHO. But the fact that many discoveries were made not at all by academics is known, but everything that we have in the 21st century was certainly created not by self-taught highly educated specialists in their fields of knowledge, and even those who love their job. Sorry for the verbosity.
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General perspective https://yadi.sk/i/ChkHMbGi3ByVfA
an interesting shot, you understand the opportunities given by knowledge.
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Probably the most commented topic 294 comments-)))))
About gravity. I don’t remember writing or not. A few years ago I watched a movie (not on TV) about a Portuguese who seemed to live in one of the countries of South America. He possessed some sort of secret of moving massive stone blocks. He made stone tables, chairs, huge doors. All by myself. And installed it myself. The mafia even ran into him, they wanted him to tell a secret.
Apparently, you think that being illiterate is much better? fool
Guest Oleg
Quote: Ivan_Pokhmelev
No, the character is real, even having some initial concepts in electronics. Unfortunately, serious changes in his life caused him the observed psychological changes (I say).
About armlessness and fields (a sarcasm man does not understand) - he attributed my "sins" to you.)) We now have a collective character with him, without dividing into individual subjects.

It’s good to be undeveloped like you. Carry yes carry it on the Internet, and eight someone will break his head.
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I watched a video on YouTube about 10 years ago, where the Americans made a model in the form of a meter bearing with load wheels, so it flew in the air. And you just have to go :( Backward country ...
But can you do the opposite, not anti-gravity, but super-gravity? So that the fluff weighed a ton

I recalled a Soviet joke about how a Georgian, who worked at a meat processing plant before retiring, leaving, brought his son to work there:
- Sinok !! Here are the mathras! Pusta such a shank machine !!! You stick a whole lamb there !! Three fingers of sausage come in there! Adyn finger you variate !!! You give two fingers to the state !!! .. T understood?
- ... Nah, dad !!! I do not understand !!!
- Shto ne panyatna !!! Poke the lamb !!! Vihodzit three fingers !!! Adyn's finger - for yourself !! Two - to the state !! Do you understand ???
- Nope!
_ Hearing !!! Is the cheat out of place? !!! Poke the lamb !!! Vihodzit three fingers !!! Adnu ....
(son interrupts)
- Dad !!! ... And such a machine beats, chitobi naabarot ??? They put a finger in the cheaters, and a lamb cherries! ??
(Georgians, barely restraining rage)
“Zdes is such a net!” But there is one at home! ... THIS IS YOUR MOM !!!!
scare
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I think that it is possible to increase the density of the gravel field in a certain volume several times without any problems, and the conducted experiments confirm this.
But can you do the opposite, not anti-gravity, but super-gravity? So that the fluff weighed a ton
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There is also an article, https: //enm.imdmyself.com/index.php? Newsid = 14219, though for some reason the drawing and photographs didn’t appear, there are different design gravels in it, and the comments seem to be missing, it seems to be interfering with someone
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Sorry vitanar but the wrong person you have chosen for reference. If you talked with him for ten minutes, you would understand that he, as that hunter, is fighting not for the cause, but for his diplomas. In his explanations there is a lot of information contradicting each other, and when there is not enough of him, he begins to insert moments from invented ether dynamics, etc. . And all just to prove his innocence. At the same time, he does not understand how the Tolchin inertia works, and if you begin to prove to him that it is not so, he will begin to refer to two hundred of his articles or, if I remember correctly, six of his books. The only thing that can be attributed to him is the study of the source material and providing it to others in a compressed form. If not for his near-scientific comments ..... and projectionism. Honor his revolution in mechanics, there are eight of them, you understand. So many promises and pseudo-scientific statements.
But Tolchin did well. I think that he understood how his models work, but after such a technique, removing him from this work and all kinds of silence, he simply did not tell anyone, however, like Schauberger. The second truth is true for another reason - if everything became clear to everyone, then there was no longer any need for it.
vitanar
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What is Dmitry, you can’t imagine that another name can be called that name. But someone proved the ability to think in four dimensions.
no offense, but go to aybolit ... and then some kind of exacerbation is straight
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Yes, Dmitry, I conducted a test on torsion scales according to the technology proposed to me. And the technology consisted in - It was necessary to take a light and strong beam (rod), hang it by the central part on a strong thread, on the one hand place the tested model on the other counterweight. To my question for what it was, the answer was received - the movement of your model is associated with the appearance of longitudinal waves inside the model and its separation from the surface will immediately show that there is no traction.
I took a plastic pipe as a rod beam, on the one hand I hung model number four, which proved to be good in the race on the carpet and swim in the water, and in the first experiment I got positive results, but the results were weak and not convincing. And this provided that the suspension system was extremely sensitive. Even it was necessary to move near it smoothly and slowly so as not to create air currents, but to breathe through a cotton gauze bandage. https://yadi.sk/i/JJ-IM8SGFlSVIw Deciding that the wrong suspension was remade for everyone by redoing the system. In the end, five series of experiments were carried out yielding slurred results. In the second half of January, model five was created, which was supposed to surpass all previous models in all respects. But the result was, although more expressive, but far from what was expected.
Then the attention was shifted to the test system itself and it turned out that either a half-educated person or a saboteur could offer it. The thrust created by the models spun it not around the center of the suspension, which is mobile and lacking mass, but around the counterweight, while the suspension turned into a spring-loaded stabilizing element extending, shifting to the side at the moment of the thrust impulse and returning to its place after its completion. Hence the so inarticulate results, although untwisting in the right direction still occurred. This method would work if two synchronously working models are located at different ends of the stem. It is difficult to imagine a master having the ability to create two identical models and synchronize their work.
Based on the foregoing, I can argue that the proposed method is unacceptable for testing models, and the person who proposed it, by thoughtlessness or with hostile intentions, tried to reduce the results of the work of single masters to null or easily contested.
That's Dmitry. In this case, I burst myself seduced by the simplicity of the experiment.
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It makes no difference, even an electromagnetic gun. The gun is precisely because it’s easier to imagine. Not everyone has a developed imagination.
12-gauge engine
Better champagne bottles! ("From the Cannon to the Moon" by J. Verne.) xaxa
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No Dmitry. By the way, your teska claimed Unsupported movement is impossible Yesho at the very beginning. Probably the fact is that you see only the mechanical part of the system, but it is present there ... Let's use an example.
There is a satellite that needs to get to, say, an asteroid, and it has an interesting engine, consisting of a 12-caliber rifle loaded with cartridges instead of bullets, into which steel balls are inserted. Each shot of the gun leads to an impulse in the right direction, and the emitted bullet enters the drum along its inner surface where it rotates until the impulse is completely lost. If you are an engineer, as you say, then you can easily imagine such a picture. The first impulse sets the system in motion, the reverse is distributed along the inner surface of the drum with almost complete compensation of the direction, the bullet itself is not lost. What is not an unsupported engine. Put a large machine gun and scribble until stupefying. Yes, over time, the bullets will need to be returned to the place and to equip new cartridges, But whoever said that this should be done right away, they waited until the satellite reached the place and dragged the bag of balls from the rear compartment to the front, closer to the machine gun. The most important thing is that we got to the place what else is required of the engine.
turtle - on a whale!

What did she get in there? Well she swam in a okayan, sort of? ...))))
P.S. Inspired by:
- He once went into the forest without a gun.
- In what sense without a gun?
- Well, in the sense of a bear.
“Not a bear, but a mammoth.” But he shot it with a gun.
- From a gun?
- Yes. A stone from cherry.
- Sweet cherries!
- He shot, firstly, not cherries, but currants. When they flew over his house.
- The Bears?
- Well, not mammoths!
“Why, then, did all this grow up with a deer?”
(c) "The same Munchausen"
And under the whale - flounder !!! )))
In bliiiin! I didn’t know, thanks for the info! Thought flounder at the bottom! xaxa
turtle - on a whale! It’s a sin not to know common truths!

And under the whale - flounder !!! )))
It is therefore flat because it lay under a whale! ))))
And cancer’s eyes are still on the stems because he SEE THIS !!! smiles sorry
There's Turtle !!!!
Especially for connoisseurs: Earth on four elephants, elephants on a turtle, and even a turtle on a whale! It’s a sin not to know common truths! xaxa
Which whale? Darkness !!! xaxa
...
There's Turtle !!!! scare
They are not visible, since they are covered by the plane of the Earth. )))
For flat land

where are the elephants and the whale?
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Communication, everyone chooses for himself.
By the way, a kind of movement under the influence of gravity .. and your imagination will allow you to replace, in this case, gravity with an electric motor, and forget for a while that you have spent a lot of muscle power.
And the shots are also cool, Sasha sent, so I decided that it would not hurt everyone to see. After all, the one who shot them did it with a certain intent ..... to show the possibilities of a skate.

For flat land planners. yahoo
And what's the connection?
P.S. If cho, I myself "managed" to ride a skateboard. And in a straight line, and uphill (small) too ...
Slashing ... I got excited ... "In a straight line" it will work if not from the mountain.))) (I meant the straight line "from point A to point B"))). The real trajectory, with "self-movement" is a zigzag.)))) We have to transform our "fall" into motion ...
By the way, a kind of movement under the influence of gravity ...))) Only now, muscle strength, I think, it takes more than if you pedal ...)))
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https://yadi.sk/i/2kJU6CX80r1dog on Yandex drive
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Valery, how do you like to misinterpret what is said,that for Valera, an indisputable truth for me, this is not necessarily This is far from consider nonsense Newton’s laws You are trying to juggle like a sharpie. So with regard to land, I talked about scientists, and you are talking about, and I'm sorry in the article I said that I will help those who will do something, and not those who will chat and troll, and even with regard to the creation of new designs.
the fact that for Valera an indisputable truth for me is not necessarily the same, and the difference is that I know a way around this, but Valera does not want to know.

But you still did not enlighten us, why do you consider Newton's laws nonsense!
I have already begun to quote several times ("There are such reference systems ...." and further in the text), in the hope that you still explain to us from which place Newton's Laws are not true and WHY ...
In general, this reminds me very much of a moment in history when the church claimed that all the planets revolve around the earth and all scientists, with a few exceptions, supported it and were ready to cling to the throats of their opponents, and some would die. And now every student can prove it.

Fortunately, now there are people like you who know for sure that the Earth is flat !!!
And there is plenty of evidence for this! Here, at least:
Flat earth
Evidence of Flat Earth
Flat Earth: theory with evidence and facts + video
And their tactics, by the way. Yours: “I won’t explain anything to you. But answer the following question: (the following is the question, the answer to which is NOT accepted by them, even if you give it). Yeah !!! You can’t? Me, I’m RIGHT !!! "
And they are also hindered by "official scientists" ...
And here you are claiming that the Earth is supposedly round !!!
Here follow the links and read !!! This point of view will be close to you. And her "evidence" is also all "of your level and style" ... I think ... You will not deny that "what you saw with your own eyes" and believe that false scientists are deceiving us !!!
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That's when they pull out a piece like a couple of lines from a page of text, it is very difficult to understand what is at stake. Especially since we often speak different languages, for Valera the immutable truth for me is not necessarily the same, and the difference is that I know a way around this, but Valera does not want to know. In general, this reminds me very much of a moment in history when the church claimed that all the planets revolve around the earth and all scientists, with a few exceptions, supported it and were ready to cling to the throats of their opponents, and some would die. And now every student can prove it. Do not believe what works, it’s clear that no explanations will be accepted, to build a similar device and to set up experiments yourself, as an interested scientist would do, if you don’t want, laziness. Interest remains to show off
What happens from Pohmelyov’s side? Let's just say something, blur from behind the fence.
You can take for granted that it doesn’t work, and it’s easier than what works, but it’s in words, but I’m used to trusting my own eyes, and you. You don’t want to help, I don’t believe that there is not 500 rubles for someone who is building a luxurious summer house, but for me a couple of such transfers and another capacitor in the engine start design. So at least do not bother.
Does everything work for him?
Have you seen or taken on faith? smile
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I will try to find an article in the journal IR for 70 some year, where a person showed his inertioids and the luminaries of science could not understand how so ...
Come on! )) Luminaries? How the inertia (and) oids work has long been known, and all this does not go beyond the boundaries of classical physics.
Quote: freefire78
Get behind the man.
Are you confusing anything? Who should lag behind?
Quote: freefire78
Does everything work for him? Be proud that there are still bright brains in the country.
Sorry to joke?))
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Thanks freefire78. It is very difficult to convince those who do not believe anyone, even their eyes, those who are afraid to say that this is impossible because he himself is not sure
Sasha has the largest diameter in containers of nesting dolls of 17 centimeters, maybe there are and I don’t know anymore. You can place one jar on top of the other, stretch the shaft between them, take the gears from the grinder for sale.
Voices of Valery, voices. That's just not all busy with chatter.
I read 260 comments and all this time the author is trying to convince everyone of his innocence. It’s good that there is no Inquisition)). I will try to find an article in the journal of the Islamic Republic of Iran over 70 some year, where a person showed his inertioids and the leading figures of science could not understand how so ... Keep up with the person. Does everything work for him? Be proud that there are still bright brains in the country.
Who is he talking to?....
Vote? help
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I agree, But the first option was the first, not the easiest. I propose to immediately switch to magneto-mechanical, of course it is difficult to control but roughly speaking the efficiency is almost at maximum.
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Then I looked through the discussion and came to this - Kinetic energy - a scalar function, which is a measure of the motion of the material points that form the mechanical system under consideration, and depending only on the masses and velocity moduli of these points [1] In the problem, I recall, we considered two identical systems with two flywheels , one in-active - the other in a passive state If I understand correctly the point velocity module of the active variant is equal to the passive velocity module. And since the system is considered as a whole, in a closed form, what is the difference between these systems and where does the kinetic energy.
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Hello, I also called Alexander, I did not carry out a suspension test, at that time nobody needed it. Yes, and on the selection of the cart option I spent four months browsing the Internet daily, so that the construction under construction would not be like anything known. And did not find anything. But now, in hindsight, many are trying to be my predecessors.
Sorry, but the question of the suspension test is not the first time. However, I do not understand what he gives. The suspension can detect traction in such a tiny amount when it is not able to move the structure on wheels, but this is not the case. Moreover, the assembled home-made construction will almost certainly not be centered and will begin to tumbling, because there is no gyroscopic effect here, and the details were selected from what was available therefore the thrust vector with a hundred percent probability does not pass through the center of mass of the structure and it will tumble. Although somersault itself will be evidence of traction. Can you clarify.
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You got the main point correctly. I create a condition for the emergence of temporary stability points, and then build on them. But interaction with the field occurs only in a certain plane, which is why I call this construction planar. During the construction of a volumetric model, the thrust will increase many times because most of the engine and most of the surrounding field will participate in the work there.Now, the thrust can be several hundred masses of the working fluid, if it is easier if the mass of balls per kilogram is four, and yet it is easy to increase their number to six or eight or more, the thrust can be several tons. But for a flying model, this does not suit well, since the necessary mechanical strength of the structure, and, accordingly, the mass, is growing. For flights, you need to move to surround systems.
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Well done Valeria, it finally became clear that we were arguing with the laws of this very Isaac Newton, but I thought that someone specially came up with a distraction with the proceedings inertia on the spare part, to distract us from Isaac. But in physics there is one more immutable law proposed by nature itself - any experiment carried out under the same conditions, according to the same methodology, should give the same results, but we have different ones. And we don’t need to try to substitute a variant of kinetic energy or something else, here we just need to choose between this cannot be, because this can never be [/ u] [/ b] or there is something in it . And probably you still have to be honest, at least with yourself. And This small step can raise to the top of the hill, and as the ancients said - from a higher hill you can see further.
both cases are in the same conditions, in the same system, and the result is different

Kinetic energy is a scalar function, which is a measure of the motion of the material points that form the considered mechanical system, and depending only on masses and velocity modules of these points[1]
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That's why I wrote that, they say, let's recall the words of one of the great ones about the fact that "There are such frames of reference ...." and hereinafter ...
I thought that the laws of Newton would be well remembered by everyone .... You can’t argue with them ... And not just because Grandfather Isaac is an authority !!! krutoy ... Simply, he formulated in words what is obvious, and helped "put everything in one scheme) ....
And the author tries, in my opinion, to compare the long with the sour. ))))). And he asks us the question "You will not argue that they are not the same? !!! So explain why !!!" help
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And to which reference system the conditions proposed in the problem belong, and again, initially both cases are in the same conditions, in the same system, but the result is different. No matter what the system is from the beginning, how do you determine the reason for the different result at the end.
First with idle gyro
We use the second case but previously spin the flywheel
hence the conclusion that laws do not always apply or their effect is limited.

Reference systemsin which the law of inertia is fulfilled is called inertial reference systems (ISO). All other reference systems (for example, rotating or moving with acceleration) are called non-inertial, respectively.
In non-inertial reference systems the law of inertia is not satisfied. Nevertheless, the motion of bodies in non-inertial reference frames can be described by the same equations of motion as in inertial, if, along with the forces caused by the action of the bodies on each other, the inertia forces are taken into account [4] [5].
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Let's do another experiment.
We use two cases from the previous task. The first with a disabled gyroscope will be placed in zero gravity in the middle of a large chamber. We apply a small blow with the hammer from the side of the largest plane closer to the corner. The case will spin and fly off to the side. We use the second case but first unwind the flywheel, and when the RPM is reached, turn off the power from the engine, let the flywheel spin by inertia. We put the same blow on the case and see that if the case began to move it is not the same as the first one and certainly did not spin.
1 - INERTIA The property of bodies to maintain the initial state of rest or uniform movement, if they are not subject to the action of any force (physical).
Since the cases were in the same condition, they were of the same mass, they were hit at the same point and of the same strength, but the result was different, which means that some laws were violated. I supposed to come to the same conclusions but more slowly in 6 steps at the same time considering the related interesting points, but they slowed down in the second step. Trying to act in the forehead. And after all, consider the conditions, there’s nothing fantastic to complain about - it follows that laws do not always work or their action is limited.

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