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Floor - concrete screed in the workshop

Floor - concrete screed in the workshop


Paul, this can be said basis, a bridgehead for placing everything you need in the room. If we talk about the workshop - these are racks, a desktop, equipment, cabinets. Work chairs, finally. Few years ago, was able to afford own workshop - timber structure, 6x6 mheated of course. Since the structure, conditionally not residential, could save some money at the initial stage - a number of elements to do later. For example, the floor, the roof.

Fish here is cheaper than yours, and beef at the same price. What? Vegetables, brother, those that you never dreamed of. Pumpkins are given to poor families under cottages. Summer residents and live in a pumpkin, and eat it. And thanks to this, the cottage, the longer you live in it, the more spacious it becomes. Here, brother. They tried to take watermelons, but it’s damp to live in them.

Eugene Schwartz - Ordinary Miracle.


Initially, it was decided to abandon the floor - it was quite possible to put up with a leveled ground, however, several seasons in the winter showed that a lot of water evaporates from the ground floor into the room. In winter, the humidity in the workshop is extremely high. Iron tools rust, wood swells, walls in the corners mold. Wooden products without a protective coating, however long they have been in the workshop, have to be adapted to normal humidity, which is long and inconvenient, otherwise there is a high risk of it, products, warping or even cracking. The bottom of any moisture-proof item placed on the floor, after a few days, is covered with droplets of water. In the warm season, the humidity "inside" drops to acceptable, due to the open windows, however, we live in the village, and although in the southern, but still the Urals, the warm season is short and busy with street affairs.

Moss covered bayonets, bolts and drills -
And in the sky women naked fly.

BG - Moscow October


In addition to high humidity in winter, the problem was the temporality of such a floor. Any solid construction had to be installed temporarily, based on a rework. Actually, a large solid shelving unit was assembled in the workshop in the entire wall, the lower shelves of which were a long table for small sedentary work. Concrete "shoes" were cast to support wooden racks.Most of the equipment, in the desktop version, was placed on powerful shelves mounted on the wall. For the rest, I had to be content with temporary solutions. A good, solid, level floor would allow to continue equipping the workshop, expand the range of possible works and make the work more convenient.

Type of floor

- Denis, do you have a repair? What floor will you make in the living room?
- I'll put the asphalt! And on the walls there is a red tile ... like in the Mayakovskaya metro station.

From an overheard conversation.


It remains to determine the type of floor. There are not many options here - a wooden floor on the logs or a concrete screed. The wooden floor, of course, is good, and executed carefully enough, lasts a long time, it is pleasant to walk on it. However, however, however. I wanted to get rid of the “earthen” moisture once and for all, the concrete screed in this sense seemed more promising. Despite the fact that I spend most of the winter in the workshop, the room is still not residential. Wood is a combustible material, and in the workshop it is sometimes necessary to do small welding work - you will have to, with a fire extinguisher at the ready, to trace the fate of each large drop of molten metal that has fallen on the floor. Again - the concrete screed is smoother and firmer than the pine boards, fewer small debris will remain in crevices and bumps. In a word, stopped at her.

Concrete screed - the floor in the room, it is recommended to make it very thin, from a cement-sand mortar reinforced with a coarse-welded mesh. Having studied the experience and results of relatives and acquaintances, he lowered the reinforcement and applied ordinary concrete with gravel. At the same time, increased the thickness of the screed to 100 mm. In addition to the ability to use ordinary concrete with gravel, this thickness of the screed allows you to block many void-forming elements - bottles, small pieces of polystyrene foam and other rubbish that does not swell too much from moisture. This makes the concrete slab less heat conductive, eliminates trash, and saves expensive building materials. There is only one drawback - the concrete should be made “rigid” - such a consistency that it needs to be laid, not poured, otherwise a light “boot” will pop up. However, thick concrete is stronger and more correct - it does not stratify into components. Also, concreting of this kind, with the laying of voids, is much more convenient to do measured and thoughtful.

In my case, the main goal pursued was to save materials - they were few in late autumn, when it was not rational to import fresh ones.

When using soft materials to form voids - pieces of polystyrene foam, plastic bottles, they had to be laid in such a way that there was a significant layer of concrete around, so that the slab would not break through, if it were to “poke” it in any weak place. Saving concrete at the same time, was not, no matter how significant. It was necessary for the boot to use the "classics" - stones, an exception was made only for glass bottles. Large and flat stones, a fair amount was obtained during the digging of the pit for the cellar-caisson. It was the densest sandstone, which lay in such thick layers. It was necessary to mine it, breaking up the layers with a magic crowbar, as a result, flat stones formed, a miracle as well suited for clogging a concrete screed.

The screed was divided into small pieces, cast in such wooden boxes without a bottom. The walls of these "boxes" of not planed pine boards - "inches", have a height of 100 mm and serve as guides when leveling the surface of concrete "rule". In addition, the layers of wood between the small plates will to some extent compensate for thermal expansion. Making the floor in small separate pieces also allows each element to be completed in one day, which has a positive effect on strength. The division of the entire screed into plates is usually done according to certain rules that stem from the convenience of work.



As a rule, “slices” are made long, from wall to wall, along the width L - of a slightly existing rule.The sections closest to the wall, from it, the walls, should be slightly “moved” a distance l, otherwise, when concreting, as mentioned by the rule, it will be inconvenient to act. This distance should not be too small - otherwise a narrow strip of concrete near the wall will not be particularly stable, however, very wide, it should not be done either - it will be difficult to level it during concreting. Reasonable, a width of 30 ... 40 cm is seen.

It is recommended to make strips along the room, towards the door, then the last portions of concrete are more convenient to lay back to the door. The recommendation makes sense for quick concreting, like - a “mixer” arrived, if you please decompose a few cubic meters of concrete in an emergency. If concreting slowly, preparing concrete with a small mixer, you can organize the process and otherwise - let the bands nearby harden and finish concreting by standing on them. In the latter case, you can “divide” the screed much more freely.

In the manufacture of concrete floors, screeds are desirable, and in my case, as a condition from humidity - waterproofing is required. Well, so as not to get up twice - warming in the form of a layer of dense orange polystyrene is not thick.

What was required to work.

Tools, equipment.

The textbook set of the trench tool - shovels, buckets, scrap - nowhere without it. I used a garden wheelbarrow with one wheel a lot. Not a short level, made locally, ramming. Rule, trowel. For the preparation of concrete I used a small concrete mixer with a manual drive, like in a meat grinder. A simple set of carpentry tools - for working with pieces of wood. Long smooth boards, sawed on a circular saw. A screwdriver came in handy. Construction knife, furniture stapler.

Materials

First of all, these are components for concrete mix - sand and gravel mix, cement, water. Sand for the "pillow". Boards 25 mm thick, self-tapping screws, but. "Penoplex" 30 mm thick (with lock), thick plastic film, ruberoid. Isolon 10mm thick.

To business

Generally speaking, when casting a concrete floor, the most dreary part of the job is preparation. This is later, when everything is ready, in fact, concreting, hourly you can see the addition to the final result, but before that ... Move cubic meters of heavy materials here and there, wave the tamper and other bad work when you cannot see the end. Of course, you should move your brains pretty well and organize the process wisely - often this reduces the number of body movements associated with the transfer of heavy loads. So.

The base for the concrete screed requires a smooth, dense, not heaving - a thick layer of flattened, compacted sand. In his case, he removed the topsoil in the room - partly to remove the remains of the "fertile layer", partly to make room for a sand cushion - so as not to reduce the height to the ceiling in the workshop too much. I had to tinker - since the threshold is high and insurmountable with a wheelbarrow, I had to leave it outside, and load the soil in buckets and dump them into the wheelbarrow through the threshold.



A few, hmm, objects were too heavy and bulky to remove at all - a wood lathe and a desktop. Lathe, impossible to bear - it was placed inside the foundation of the workshop and the walls were erected around. I had to, as light as possible, maneuver them inside while rolling on two even blocks. The desktop, originally born as a pin-pong table, had to be disassembled.





The mentioned “shoes” are visible - the supports of the rack racks, the top plate is also bare furnace foundation.



After removing the topsoil and leveling the surface, sandy “cushion”. There was no clean sand - I applied sand obtained by digging a foundation pit for the cellar, where it was with a small amount of medium-sized sandstone pebbles, plus a bit of clay. Heaps of it were thoroughly wet in the street with rain - it did not have to be moistened before tamping. The layer was impressive - about 30 cm.



The tool itself was made from a piece of a log and scraps of boards. Shell ... for the development of the upper shoulder girdle.



The first piece is the lathe parking spot.On a compacted and leveled surface of sand, he laid in several layers pieces of an old roofing material taken from above, from the roof, with installation of galvanized "corrugated board". For disposal usefully. After using a new roofing material. This is the primary, so to speak, waterproofing. On top of it is a layer of polystyrene foam, on it is polyethylene with a wraparound of the edges on the walls, so that a kind of tight trough is obtained. Well, on polyethylene - a mold box.



My concrete mixer, unfortunately, does not know how to dump ready-made concrete somewhat forward, so that it is possible to use the gutter, and dump the prepared mixture, outside, through the threshold. I had to organize the process as follows - a concrete mixer inside, near the door, the components are thrown out of the wheelbarrow, with a shovel outside. In the photo - the process of stuffing inward. The concrete mixer is old, solid, fairly weighs and can not be disassembled. The only thing that can be done is good.




After a week of exposure under polyethylene, the corner of the workshop was deemed ready to install the machine, so it crawled into place.

It is planned to install a sink with a washbasin - in the right place I made a bookmark for a sewer pipe.




Sides - boards from molds-boxes, stick out flush with the floor surface. Fresh saw cuts, where they are not smeared in cement mortar, will be crushed by feet and will cease to stand out - the floor will look like a continuous surface.

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Author
Yes, the dialogue really took place among colleagues.
I’ll put the asphalt)) I didn’t hear it, I had a laugh)))
Author
Yes, it’s more convenient for me too. Valera, you would take all the subtleties to describe, it would be useful. Especially the "undocumented" features, tricks. Without a fair amount of practice, they cannot be opened, and there are very few such people with practice.
If everything is close, you can drive up to the concrete mixer with a wheelbarrow and dump it at the right point ...

Speaking of which ...
I, on the contrary, “like to wear sand, not mortar” ... That is, I have a concrete mixer directly in the area of ​​work, and to it I drive (carry) sand (gravel). And many, I know, love the opposite - the mixer is near gravel, and the solution is carried (worn). How do you like it.)))
And when I made rough screeds and there were no such strict requirements to the quality of the mortar, I interfered without a concrete mixer - “on a hill”. So faster, you don’t need to raise anything, and the ready-made solution then simply spread out and evenly.
If you didn’t need to raise the level, then on a solid basis 5 cm of concrete will hold the pyramid of elephants!)))). On soft, reinforcement in the lower plane with a metal mesh is really necessary, because concrete works great for compression (practically no compressibility), but very, very unstable. Therefore, the grid is needed exactly at the bottom.
clogged bottles strive to float

I didn’t understand why there were bottles and polystyrene there ... If you really wanted to save concrete, you would throw broken brick and other things ... Or you would just pour a layer of gravel and the screed - thinner
Author
Greetings Valery! Thanks for the details, practical, professional experience is very useful. Regarding the comments, I make excuses - the concrete used sand and gravel, in the proportion indicated on the bag, all as in the charter. Concrete consistency, in fact, should be thick and not otherwise, however, often from vibration when laying, clogged bottles tend to float. By the way - you are a colleague absolutely right - all the soft parts are a weakening, however, the strength of concrete is usually excessive, take the same strip foundations for wooden houses. Here, in addition to a heavy lathe, no heavy loads are expected.There were certainly elastic gaskets between the floor and the wall, I really did not know the origin of the name, thanks. I didn’t water the finished pieces - I covered with a film. The hardening time of concrete, among other things, depends on temperature, like all chemical reactions, at mine +5, the next day you could walk carefully, every other day, walk confidently. I waited a week to put the machine, for reliability, and from the fact that time allowed me to take my time. The speed of work very much depends on its organization - a convenient approach-approach, dumping ready-made concrete right where you need it. If everything is close, you can drive up to the concrete mixer with a wheelbarrow and dump it at the right point ... Well, experience is a great thing. My concrete work, for a family home is not a frequent thing - thanks for the additions.
I, literally the day before yesterday, one (!!) in this way poured a screed of 6 square meters to a thickness of 12 centimeters. It took half a day to work.
And further. I didn’t see (maybe I missed) what you were doing damper gaskets along the walls of. I usually make them from a strip of foamed polyurethane or polyethylene.
The next day, it is advisable to water the screed.
If cement M500 D0 is used (without additives), then the screed is ready in a day. If the cement is M500d20 - walking on it the next day is already possible, but the loads are full no earlier than a week later.
"D0" is not stronger than "D20", as many are mistaken! It is just that the “zero” hardening time is shorter.
I advise you to use the M500D20 - then the next day the screed can be wiped with a wooden, or polystyrene grater to a perfectly even state. And "D0" is already grappling "in stone" ...
Dear author ... Sorry, but ... as Delawyus used to say, I smell a little ...)))
Concrete screed - the floor in the room, it is recommended to make it very thin, from a cement-sand mortar reinforced with a coarse-welded mesh.

I don’t know who recommended this to you ... Really, only a thin screed is reinforced with a mesh, which (attention!) Fits on an unstable base (polystyrene, etc.). If the screed is 10 cm thick, as you have, and laid on a solid foundation, it’s really not necessary to reinforce it
.In addition to the ability to use ordinary concrete with gravel,

And what other concrete is used ???. If with sand - then this is not concrete, but a solution ...
such a thickness of the screed allows you to block many void-forming elements - bottles, small pieces of polystyrene foam and other rubbish not too swollen from moisture. This makes the concrete slab less heat conductive, eliminates trash, and saves expensive building materials.

It is true only about the "eliminates trash" ... In order to reduce its thermal conductivity, the foam had to be laid under it in a continuous layer !!! Even a small "cold bridge" next to a piece of polystyrene will nullify all the attempts .... And you have:
had to be laid so that there was a significant layer of concrete around,
This concrete layer will conduct heat down! So there is NOTHING other than weakening the SCREW!
It would be better to simply break the bottles and tamp into the sand! Polyfoam in concrete - explicitly exclude it! He is good only under CONCRETE !!!
More about concrete ... I still do not understand how you prepared it ...
Just in case:
If you take ordinary cement grade M500, then you will achieve the greatest strength by mixing it in a proportion of one to three. Particular attention should be paid to thorough mixing. Odes should be added as little as possible - ideally by weight of cement. In order to give fluidity (mobility) of the mixture, add a plasticizer to the water before mixing. (In extreme cases - liquid soap). This will allow you to use less water, as a result - to reduce the hygroscopicity of concrete.
This was especially surprising:
There is only one drawback - the concrete should be made “rigid” - such a consistency that it needs to be laid, not poured, otherwise a light “boot” will pop up.

What are you going to fill with water ??? )))). A mortar (and even more so concrete) with a plasticizer retains fluidity even with a very thick consistency! But nothing is capable of surfacing in it ....
And then ...Boards and formwork are superfluous! If the areas are huge, it’s enough to simply divide into squares of 10 square meters something porous (the same board, a strip of “laminate substrate, etc.) First, lines are laid over which the“ beacons ”are installed. for example, pipes, or the same boards. They are set according to the level. After this, the concrete is laid between them, compacted, and then pulled together by a rule, or by a flat board (Hence the word "screed" ... you did not know?)) ))). After they pulled off a meter and a half, the lighthouses stretch back, and the voids t of them in the finished screed are filled with concrete and tiled with a trowel. (Don’t be afraid, in twenty minutes they will not float away! Namely, you will need so much to fill and pull off). You can just put beacons from harder concrete and “rub” them the upper part by the level, or by the rule “under the level.” As long as you apply concrete between them, they will “sit down” - they will become more rigid (without changing the shape) and you will be able to pull together more fresh concrete on them.
Long and tedious. Until you get to the screed, you don’t want to read anymore.

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