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Three Windows and Linux in one glass

In the world, friend Partizio,
There are so many perversions
What did not dream
To your sages ...


(... from a conversation between an experienced system administrator and an advanced user ...)



I don’t know how for anyone, but for me personally, a computer is primarily a tool. An extremely convenient, sharpened, high-performance tool, although completely unsightly from the outside, but allowing me to perform any tasks in the shortest time with the best result. Yes, of course, sometimes I use my computer and not for work, for some multimedia and entertainment purposes, but this is rare. If only because it’s more convenient for me to watch movies on TV and sitting on the couch (he finds what he needs on the Internet), I listen to music more in the car or on the radio (on my own radio, with my favorite repertoire). So from purely computer entertainment there is only skype, because of which, in general, all this fuss fired.

There are a lot of computers in my house. One, two, three .... seven. Seven pieces right now. All workers, all good, go turn it on and use it. Four of mine, one with my wife, two with my daughter. Three of them are laptops. And I want to especially note that we are all ordinary people who are not at all obsessed with digital technologies, but rather try to use them, avoid these technologies as far as possible, and use computers only when we need it.

But let us nevertheless be closer to me, that is, to my work, and more precisely to my simple engineering solution, which allowed me to work on one computer with four fundamentally incompatible systems.
Until some time, on my main working computer, I used the old, good, reliable ... Windows XP. And I beg you, do not throw stones at me and spit bile. Until 2019, I personally had everything in it, absolutely everything suited me! But here came the eighth version of skype and after that all the rest of its versions just stopped working. Especially under XP. And while the advanced hacker brawl did not figure out how to get around this problem, I had to live my own mind.
It would seem that a lot of mind is not necessary - put the Seventh or Tenth Windows on a four-core computer with four gigabytes of memory, a two-gigabyte GF1050Ti card and a 120 GB gigabyte SSD - and the problem disappears, our hated beloved Skype will shine again in all its updated glory. But it turned out exactly the opposite, the problems rained down one after another, and what’s the most annoying - they all have no other solution than a complete replacement of all my peripheral equipment!
The HP1100 excellent printing laser printer, MUSTEC 1200 scanner, Creative Audigy sound card, Aver Media TV tuner, MIRO VIDEO DC10 video capture card, and even an unnamed WEB-camera - all these devices that served me for good were not the seventh, nor tenth system. Half of the devices did not work at all (falling out into the blue screen of death), and the other half could not find drivers, because for these systems they simply do not exist.
But I did not run to the store to get a new printer and scanner, I didn’t switch to the integrated sound card with a cheap AC97 codec, I didn’t throw out the TV tuner and video capture card. Only a WEB-camera bought another, for 200 rubles from aliexpress.
I went to garage and found there two sets of wires with power adapters for connecting SATA hard drives and a two-pole six-pole switch.

Three Windows and Linux in one glass


The idea is simple and reliable. We take another hard drive, any suitable for seven or tens. I took it from a laptop. We connect it to the motherboard, in the second SATA port. In the first SATA port, a native disk with the good old XP was already connected. The third SATA port of the motherboard includes DVD_RW. We solder the wires from the power supply to the switch, yellow (12 volts) and red (5 volts). The outputs are soldered to the adapters for powering the hard drives. And it turns out that now in one switch position two power supplies to the first hard drive, and in the other switch position to the second hard drive. Mass (black wire) is always connected to the drives.
When you turn on the computer, the motherboard in BIOS determines the working hard drive and boots from it. On the first disc, as I already said - good old XP with all my devices and programs,






On the second hard drive there is a seven with skype and Yandex browser, because nothing else, including this article, on it, with my "prehistoric" hardware, is already impossible to do.







On the sound card, I managed to find some clumsily modified driver from the x64 version, the rest of the "unidentified" hardware was simply disabled in the device manager.
That's how we live.

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We press one button and load the corresponding operating system. If you need to change the "earth" axis, turn off the computer and press another button. After switching on, another, completely isolated (on another hard drive) operating system is loaded. The third hard drive in my computer, with 500 gigabytes, with all the documents, files and photos acquired by my overwork, is seen without any problems by all operating systems.

This simple and effective solution I have already applied on several of my computers, on different motherboards and with different hard drives. The flight is normal!

An attentive reader may ask a question, but what is it about your Linux header?
Answer: This is a DVD with a bootable image of UBUNTU 18.04. When I want to get distracted and, for example, climb all sorts of bad websites on the Internet, I put this disc on a DVD and the computer boots from it, regardless of the position of the switches of other “axes” and “systems”. This is because in the order of loading devices in the BIOS of the motherboard, first USB, then DVD, and then a hard disk are set. I emphasize that this UBUNTU sees everything perfectly and works with all my hardware, including a printer, a TV tuner and a video capture card. It is possible to work, but I'm just used to Windows.




Well, if you want a particularly refined expressionism, then for such a case I have a special bootable USB flash drive with the image of WIN PE 10. Insert it into any USB port and ... voila, it loads a little cropped, but fully functional dozen with a small set of the most necessary programs . The printer, scanner and tuner in this system are also not recognized and do not work.



Yes, and in conclusion, I want to once and for all answer the questions of especially "advanced" users about multisystem downloads, about all sorts of different EasyBCD, MultiBoot, GRUB, Boot manager, LILO, NTLDR, and so on ...
Swam, we know, tried - it makes you sick. Either I have some kind of allergy, or I don’t start dancing with a tambourine - but it doesn’t work out so quickly, simply and without hemorrhoids. With a switch, everything is much simpler and faster. And what gives the collective farm - I beg you, I'm a downshifter, I live and work on this collective farm!
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24 commentary
Author
Judging by your text, you are the third user, and you know the question. If you find time to write me an e-mail, then I will be glad to continue the conversation and even then, in a personal conversation, I will tell you the secret why I ignore boot managers, but prefer the technology - one screw - one system.
Author
Yes, yes, that’s how I made the seven work with my Creative sound card
Author
Good afternoon. And you try to put two system dicks, on a computer, one with a dozen, and the other with a pig. And make the machine boot with piggy. Only a dozen will be. You won’t be able to use any BIOS, just a boot manager or, like mine, buttons.
The old driver is the one that already stood, but has been updated. It’s not at all a fact that it’s possible to establish any driver suitable for "pig".
Why constantly climb into the BIOS? Once it sets the choice of loading the OS when the machine starts (at least from one disk, at least from different). The default is more commonly used.
or one "music porn game" =))))
- this question will be answered by the department of the certification center in Redmond, Washington =)
in Windows 7 there is a way to install not new firewood
- But does it always work?
Maybe few people know (this is not entirely obvious) but, in Windows 7 there is a way to install not new firewood - the dispatcher manager - install the old driver ...
well ... climb constantly in Beavis ... the same thing as waiting for the boot from the menu to select the operating system, and here, - chik, and you're done.
put win embedded =)
Duc, I’m saying that your decision by your decision remains only.
I generally like the hardware solutions more.
Do not pay attention to the rest. Did and did, who do not need, those in the garden and the forest =))
on the account of OSes - nothing to add. to each according to his needs.
seven embidus recommended because of its really light weight, a kind of alternative winXP.
I also consider XP - "top" ... All of the following is more for commerce ... A simplification that requires ORDER of large resources !!! (My XP "flies" on a partition of 5-6 gigs ...))) What the hell does the "seven" want 50 ???) Yes, and with the "extras" I never complained about working with 512 RAM. ..
And I still do not like wildly that the subsequent OSes are somehow made according to the principle: "Use it on you! You’re not bad at sorting out something, mastering something and setting up something for yourself !!! We know better what’s better for you! You’re playing the loot, and even in the background we’ll give you unnecessary features and capabilities ... And we’ll pump up the ruble, and ask for a thousand resources ... And you won’t get anywhere - you’ll run to buy iron! "
Enough from time to time to "crop" on computers with seven gigabytes of unnecessary "pumping" ...
And since he himself is a “kettle” in this, he could not understand what could be done so that she (“Seven”) would not “swell” ... From time to time, manually I simply delete everything that she pumped up for herself .. .

I think that simplifying the interface is evil !!! So soon on the keyboard, it will be possible to leave only a couple of buttons: "Music", "Games", "Porn".)))))))
I also have an old HP printer. And also refused to work on new OSes. I just wrote to the manufacturer and they sent me firewood for my Windows. I did the same with Navitel maps, which were not in the catalog under my old navigator. I wrote, indicated the data and they sent me everything.
Also, at one time, they added that you need to install Win7 and higher ... Installed, tried it - did not like it. Worse Win XP builds. The same thing and above Winy. Winchester constantly loads something and wool out of the blue. Also, the requirements for iron resources are increased. If, as the Comp is written for work, then why all sorts of Skype and so on have fun on Win 10? Mostly plugging (and timing) due to network access restrictions. Sites, data are loaded for a long time ...
Quote: Nruter
keep a separate axis just for the sake of the printer or other peripherals
Not "or the other," but generally the entire periphery.
VirtualBox - is a decrease in performance.
And with the switches, it’s a really strange undertaking. The BIOS allows you to do this by simply selecting the drive from which to boot.
I wrote "swam, we know, tried - it makes you sick"

Why isn’t I sick? On the contrary, it’s very convenient. If you feel sick, then just do not understand the question. As they say - to a bad dancer ... I, of course, have less equipment. Just a home server on Debian Server, just a computer with Win 10, Debian 9, and two laptops with Win 10, Debian 9 and Fedora 28. One laptop with UEFI and rEFInd bootloader, the rest with GRUB2.
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Heard, heard. I wrote, "Swam, we know, tried - it makes you sick." If you want to talk on a more substantive level, then let me personally come to your site or mail. I can’t give direct links, they will consider it as advertising. Find me is very simple, ask Yandex "Uncle Sasha from Okhlebinino."
Author
Oh, I knew that they would pour more than one bucket of something on me ... Understand, dear Ruslic, the main idea here is not iron, but a way to avoid an unnecessary upgrade. Well, I do not want a scanner with a printer and change my favorite sound to junk. It is necessary to read carefully. I wrote that personally there are four of my computers. One article is described. The second is a laptop, on it there is a seven and ubuntu through GRUB2. The third server, and the fourth in the garage, for auto diagnostics. Now guess, the first time, which axes are in the garage and on the server. My wife has seven on my laptop, my daughter has seven on my laptop and ten in a hospital.
- which is not meaningless, the retail version has always been more expensive than the one that comes officially with the new computer =)
the author wrote to the bootloader account - so apparently you didn’t read to the end. but into the account of the virtual machine, yes, drop it! install and watch slide shows?
... you have to collect back what you put here =))
There are a lot of computers in my house. One, two, three .... seven
I remembered when XP came out, in the USA there was a boom for the purchase of new computers. Marketers conducted a survey on the reason for replacing a computer. More than 65% of respondents said that the reason for replacing the computer is the release of a new OS! smile
Quote: Ruslic
tons of shit would not be avoided =)

A ton of shit can be poured here.
I will not discuss all the masochistic ideas of the author. I’ll ask only one thing - did the author even hear anything about operating system loaders? For UEFI there is rEFInd, for example, for BIOS there is GRUB2. Apparently, I did not hear anything if I switched hard drives with a mechanical switch.
Dear author, install the necessary operating systems on all your hard drives. When you boot the computer itself will ask which boot. The very last, the very last, you need to install Ubuntu. Linux will install the GRUB2 bootloader for you. And then when you turn on the computer, you will need to calmly choose which axis to load.The default time will be 30 seconds. You can reduce or increase.
And in general, to keep a separate axis just for the sake of a printer or other peripherals is a great stupidity. Just put one Win 10 and install VirtualBox. And in it, put at least a dozen axes virtually for peripherals or especially needed programs that do not support new axes.
yes give up!
normal iron =)
I on my asus eee900 with 2gb famously sculpted ten-frame GIFs, sculpted HDR packet photos and worked in Word, while Casper 6.0 was hanging in the background.
And now, on asus x200ca, the vidos on Premiere 2.0 was easily blinded.
however, if this article would appear on the musk ... tons of shit could not be avoided =)
ps / windows 7 embedded (or for thin client) very good

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