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The secret and modernization of the bayonet shovel


The bayonet shovel is actually quite a formidable tool, you can dig trenches, pits for poles and more, cutting through the roots, breaking through stones and other obstacles.

I’m digging a trench 120 meters long in dense clay and the bayonet shovel can’t stand it. One spade is enough for 30 meters, then you need to either cook it or take another, although I don’t lean on it especially. The fact is that in the process of digging, the shovel bends, springs, as a result, over time, the metal gets tired and does not return to its original position and the shovel bends, and then breaks, gives cracks.

Strengthening
In the process of destruction of the shovel, I welded it, in the end it turned out what you see in the photo, this is the final version and, in principle, it is optimal. The stiffening ribs of the shovel were reinforced with old thick nails, and when welded solidly, strong stiffening ribs were obtained. As a result, 5 nails went, this is not so much weight, but the strength of the shovel and the resource are greatly increased.



Productivity increase. Important!
Usually a shovel handle has a sharpened end, part of the handle goes along the blade under the stiffener. Thanks to this design, the shovel's bending strength is increased. BUT! This design greatly reduces the performance of the bayonet shovel. Take a stick and try to insert it into dense ground, well, really? Not! So with a bayonet spade, the handle simply rests on the ground and the spade is stuck somewhere in the middle.

Due to the strengthening of the structure, which I described above, the handle does not need to be carried along the stiffener, it is inserted only into the bracket (pipe) and reaches the upper border of the shovel. When I did this, I got scared of my shovels! Previously, I danced on it in order to somehow drive the bayonet into thick clay, now it goes like butter, and I take 10 centimeters at once, whole clay cobbles break off.

But it is important to remember that a shovel is not a crowbar, you need to feel the load, there are roots and stones ....

Plus, I slightly knocked the blade forward, so the shovel takes the breed better, but this does not affect the breakdown force, and you need to bend your back less.

We clean off the paint from the shovel, the friction of the metal on the ground is minimal. The shovel rusts when it does not work, so it is better to lubricate it for storage.



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The secret and modernization of the bayonet shovel


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105 comments
Quote: Denis Ka
A kilogram of 6-7 will definitely be.

Is this a virtue? ))) It seems to me that for a universal shovel this is a significant drawback. And to chop down roots and stuff - for this, the author made a hatcher out of an ax.
Dmitrij,
ax and shovel ... what else does a man need
Sometimes even scrap with a sledgehammer is a great help! yes
Denis Ka
At work (heating networks), a mechanic welded a shovel from a segment of 325mm pipes and 25mm pipes, in the image and likeness, as they say, with stops and a slingshot handle. And cuts stones and fells trees. A kilogram of 6-7 will definitely be. And you are nails, fiscars ...
Author
Quote: Alexey himself
I look at the topic about the shovel is my favorite .. goodgood


a popular tool, an ax and a shovel ... what else does a man need. Well, of course, the knife
I look at the topic about the shovel is my favorite .. goodgood
Guest Yuri
Dmitrij,
It is necessary to squeeze the handle in the gutter flush with the metal along the entire length of the gutter and nothing will rest against the ground. Enough to check with your palm on the back of the shovel. And to attach as in the photo is the best way to bend the bayonet in the upper part. It’s not my first year that a shovel has been working for me, but my son-in-law is constantly bending, I forbade him to take his shovel.
Guest Yuri
If a shovel made of good steel, as was done in the USSR, it must be cooked with a stainless steel. If you cook a simple electrode and the seam will break.
Guest Alex
Bullshit!
Guest SERGEY
He laughed heartily)) Two pages of comments re-create the wheel people.
This is pride, and it is known to be one of the mortal sins.
- repent, Dmitry xaxa
Maybe they ran into a fake?
I am personally pleased, I have both shovel and bayonet, both of rail steel.
After using a bayonet, I bought a shovel, in the same store.
Maybe they are not made of rail steel, but the tool is excellent.
1. From your treatise it is not clear whether to weld nails or not?
2. About the stalk I agree that it should not be modernized.
Profer
Additional ribs on the shovel will not be superfluous. But what about the stalk cut stupidly cut is stupid. If it is ground to zero, in the groove intended for it, then it will hardly show any resistance. But the cuttings trimmed at his seat will really create an obstacle to work. I want to note to the author that he is not the only one to use the shovel. In general, this tool was invented by our grandfathers many hundreds of years ago and perfected by many generations by trial and error. And not only here, but all over the world. Do not consider yourself the smartest and contrast yourself with the whole world. This is pride, and it is known to be one of the mortal sins.
Found a dozen of these rusty nails in the country. I will give a free upgrade to the shovels. But ... pickup .. yes
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Of course, do not tear it, if you loosen the smell

Exactly!!! Despite the fact that I am amused by the commercial move with the name "rail steel", I consider these shovels to be very good. Some of the best.
..As already written, recently I had to work on very heavy soil - it broke! (The blade at the end along cracked in several places).But, last time, on the same site by that time I had already broken four or five pieces! And this one! The second dug up.
Just clicked "answer" and typed the first word ("Fuck"), as I saw this comment almost word for word ...)))))))
pogranec
what for the person living in odnushka on the 9th floor, a bayonet shovel?
And how to dig the earth in flower pots? xaxa
Author
and you are obsessed with what does not tear purchased ... tear them all, it is an expendable tool. Of course, do not tear it, if you loosen the smell

I do not do anything logical in life, this method is simple, quick and free for me, and the shovel is still alive, I dug up the trench.
Of course I have a curve, similarly I will make another, already smooth, but torn.
Author
well, if you are a maniac ...
it doesn’t mean at all that a person living in odnushka on the 9th floor has the same assortment in the middle of the hall
- what for the person living in odnushka on the 9th floor, a bayonet shovel?
dik007
not buying anything?
-nails
electrodes
-electricity
-welding machine :-)
- clamps and clamps (if you want to weld carefully, and not anyhow)
just don’t say that any man of these things has a full house. If you have and I have, it doesn’t mean at all that a person living in odnushka on the 9th floor has the same assortment in the middle of the hall
dik007
Also agree with you
The author was simply fixated on his own decision so much that he was no longer able to accept criticism
from my own experience - if the shovel is shitty, then how not to scald it - for a short time because it breaks nearby, or weld so much that by weight as the floor of a shovel
dik007
Good
you apparently didn’t go beyond the price tag “rail”
I have 4 shovels on the farm
from the moment of purchase I stopped buying others because there is no reason ... unkillable
it is immediately visible when sharpening
a grinder with a peeling wheel, you must try hard to sharpen
but then not a damn stupid
read on the stamp who made your "rail"
otherwise it’s possible to buy at the gypsies and iPhone 12th market :-)
Markov Andrey
They always tried to lighten the shovel, and not to make it "Cast Iron", but eternal ...
DMITRY MIKHAILOVICH SCRIPNIK
I AGREE TO YOU
DMITRY MIKHAILOVICH SCRIPNIK
Sorry, what place do you think?
Author
a long lever, i.e. a handle for the entire length of the tulle. Otherwise, as you have in the photo all the power from the handle will apply to bending, breaking off the tulle from the canvas, as a result, the weakest element, say, the stem will break, since the tulle is reinforced with nails


Fatal error ...
Dmitrij, the process of digging consists of two successive processes: sticking a bayonet-cloth shovel-into the ground (for the tomatoes themselves :-), and picking-picking the ground. When stuck on the canvas, friction forces are proportional to the frontal section. On the cutting edge is less, on the convex part, the tulle with the end of the handle is larger. When you jump on a shovel, it experiences significant deforming moments. To some extent, the bend is damped by the cruelty of the curved canvas, its elasticity. Part of the kinetic energy is dissipated as heat. Yes, I agree, at the first stage, the shape of the canvas (curvature), sharpening and a minimum of protruding parts above the surface of the canvas are decisive factors for a good stick. But there comes a moment of selection, and here what is required is what I described in the first comment: a long lever, that is, a handle for the entire length of the tulle. Otherwise, as you have in the photo, all the power from the handle will apply to bending, breaking off the tulle from the canvas, as a result, the weakest element, say, the stem will break, since the tulle is reinforced with nails. It turns out that for sticking a stalk interferes, and helps to select a stalk in a tulle for the entire length.People are always looking for a compromise: they shorten the stalk or shrink so much that it doesn’t interfere with entering the soil, and helps with the selection of the soil.
Author
No, she broke with my normally inserted cuttings, but she did not dig, I danced on her, staggered, but she did not climb into the ground!

Aligned once again, strengthened, took the time to study the planes. As a result, I noticed that the groove in the back sticks out, therefore the handle rests on the ground. And since I have already strengthened everything, it makes no sense for me to put the stalk along the entire length, as a result, it stands only in the holder. As a result, nothing breaks, and the spade goes like a bullet ...
But maybe it’s just my curve, so the groove sticks out from behind, or maybe it’s done so.
Specifically registered to insert his five cents. First discovered GOST 19596-87. "Shovels." Judging by the author’s photo, he has a LKO type shovel - a pointed digging shovel. According to the table. 2 guests, the shovel blade must withstand a bending moment of 180 N * m at a distance of 115 mm from the cutting edge, and the moment of 450 N * m must withstand a bullet point at the point of transition to the blade. It is known from physics that a shovel is a lever of the first kind, when the load (lump of earth) and force (pressure on the handle) are on different sides from the point of support, the surface of the earth. The stalk goes down, the lump of earth goes up. Let's figure out the power to break the coma. The length of the handle is 1 m, the center of gravity of the coma is approximately in the middle of the length of the canvas (285/2 = 142.5 mm). Then, applying the force of 300N (about 30 kg) to the end of the handle, we get a moment of 3,000 N * m, and at the other end of the lever-handle, we create a force to break off the coma at 300 * (1000 / 142.5) = 2105Н, or approximately 215 kg The author Dmitrij deliberately shortens the cuttings to half of the tulle, and reinforces the tulle with nails, and the lines of transition of the tulle to the canvas, and then wonders why the cuttings often break. The physics of the shovel clearly shows that the lever should be as long as possible, i.e. the stalk is driven into the tulle for the entire length, and beveled along the blade. Only then will they act with the canvas as a single whole, reinforcing each other and not breaking one or the other.
Author
Yes Ivanovitch, today I loaded 3 firewood cars, unloaded, apart from everything else, terribly tired
Quote: Dmitrij
Soviet nail 200X60 mm
xaxa scratch xaxa
Author
But the holders break. Can they be drilled and a piece of reinforcement added there? -)))


Probably, as Valera does, it will only be too heavy ... I bought here new holders, some heavy ones, made of solid wood. Let's see if they can stand it ...
Author
let him even bend a hundred modern)) I am silent about the Soviet nail 200X6 mm))
Not so bad a 90 K shovel was pumped-))) I’ll add a little bit, that would be up to 100.
I have all the cuttings on the shovels installed the same way, only to the shoulder. Moreover, not a single shovel broke, although the pits dug and wells and trenches. But the holders break. Can they be drilled and a piece of reinforcement added there? -)))
We are waiting for the video how you bend your nails with your hands.
Author
Are you an adequate people?
Guest Leonid
what the fuck is doing .. also argue with adequate people! nonsense! I will bend this nail with my hands! you're a crowbar weld! dol ... b
And what is so difficult to weld nails to a shovel yourself ??? dontknow
Igor Alexandrovich Akimov
My brother, who, to my great regret, died in 2001, was a welder and did so a few shovels. These shovels served me (and dug them every year until 2018) for about 17-18 years !!!! A very great way to increase the life of the shovel !!!
[Guest Petrovich] Find a three millimeter sheet and from it cut yourself the desired shovel.
I agree, it is stronger from a 3 mm sheet, and from a 5 mm sheet it is even stronger, from a 9 mm sheet it is even ... etc.
xaxa
I acted easier, I bought both bayonet and shovel from rail steel, and the problems all just disappeared ..
Valery
You just explain to me how they can dig this hole !!!
Well, what is there to understand? Remember the Chukchi, KAMAZ, and tired deer! Take a cultivator, attach a stalk ... xaxa
Yeah. And the width? Is it worth it to dig under the pipe to the width of the spread arms of the cultivator?)))) Well, almost a meter of width is needed. One hundred meters of trench - throw out more than one hundred cubic meters of shovel soil.)))
And how then to get it out of the trench alone ???)))
In short - the theory! ... In practice - half a meter of depth is possible, but if forty meters, under water ....)))) ... If there is a lot, just hire a mini-excavator. (This, by the way, is cheaper than hiring people. Verified.)
Guest Petrovich
Dear. There are no so-called "rail, spring" shovels. For false advertising, create composite videos where they allegedly make a shovel from the rails. Shovels are made bluntly by stamping from a simple sheet. Want a strong shovel? Find a three-millimeter sheet and cut it out yourself the right shovel.
Guest Vladimir
Valera: I don’t know about the pit, but a long trench by the walk-behind block on the count of times: you run through a milling cutter, loosen it. Well, and even the dirt-sovkova. The number of passes is depth.
And pay for the road and accommodation? ))))
Someone, but we don’t have Tajiks.)))
I also want, like you, to “completely forget about the shovels)))). But, I’m not“ catching up ”with something ... So far they only know how to plow their wife under the flower beds ...
Yes, it's very easy to forget about the shovel ...
Invite 2 specialists from Tajikistan, and the problem is solved .. good
Anyway, I can’t imagine how Dmitry’s ditch can dig a meter-deep ditch under a water pipe ....
Or, now I’ll dig under the local sewer ... Cuba four pits ....
I have a cultivator ... You just explain to me how they can dig this hole !!!
I also want, like you, “forget about shovels))))). But, I’m not“ catching up ”with something ... So far they only know how to plow their wife under flower beds ...
valery guest
there have been a lot of shovels in my life, and there are different shovels, they still exist, but without them, but I bought a cultivator, a champion, I completely forgot about Chinese shovels, something like this
Author
Look again at MY shovel ...


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