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Model-Designer 1983-07. Electronic ignition for a moped

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About advantage electronic Ignition systems in relation to the usual ones are known to any moto-amateur: engine power increases, and gasoline costs decrease, engine starting is facilitated and the interrupter contacts do not burn. Moreover, this electronic console mounted on a moped automatically adjusts the ignition timing from the number of revolutions of the engine crankshaft, creating conditions close to maximum engine torque.
Model-Designer 1983-07. Electronic ignition for a moped

The moped generator generates an alternating voltage proportional to the number of revolutions of the engine crankshaft. This voltage is increased by a transformer and rectified by a diode bridge, charges the storage capacitor and energizes the electronic control device.

The transformer T 1 is wound on a magnetic core Ш 12X20. The winding I contains 160 turns of PEL wire 0.23, the winding II-2800 turns of PEL wire 0.12. With 1 - the native capacitor of the mechanical ignition system of a moped.

The device is adjusted by selecting the optimal resistance for resistor R2.

Trial tests of the electronic device on a moped revealed that when working on this ignition system, fuel savings of up to 15% are created with a noticeable increase in the motor traction.

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And anyway ... WHY IT? Is the game worth the candle? ... I understand THEN. And now even the Minsky have been gone nowhere. Maybe someone is lying in the barn, but no one has been riding them for a long time ... I have not met at least fifteen years already ... Is it worth it to look?
... Yes, and now everything is available. They used to do it because of inaccessibility. And now - I went and bought a scooter, or a light motorcycle ...Anyway, after all, right now you need a moped ...
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The frame does not have to be strengthened, but you have to redo it! In the "Carpathians" - "spinal". The motor is fixed only at the rear and suspended by the cylinder. The rear mount will not fit the motor from Minsky. And in front, you need to weld the pipe to the frame to secure the front mount. In addition, there will be hemorrhage with the fact that the motor is more massive - it will need to be tilted, otherwise it will rest against the tank with its head .. Accordingly, the back mount of the engine will need to be made and welded taking into account this tilt. Well, it’s not enough to lower the front pipe from under the tank - you also need to bend it and weld it under the engine, because if the engine just hangs on two pipes that are not connected from below, it will rotate with sharp acceleration ... There will not be enough stiffness of the “cheeks”, of which you will make the engine mount.
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Damn .... But who in the USSR thought about razhod ????? ... Gasoline something to spare? !!! ....)))))
I, at one time had Izh-Orion, and had free gas (I could take as much as I wanted — a neighbor, a good friend, worked as a driver. And then (don’t be surprised !!!!), even go to an unknown driver and ask for half a bucket of gasoline - no one will refuse. Che then gasp. Only they will say that he merged ...)). Gasoline at home was always 100 liters then. But I did not flood it, because it is the 76th. And on the 93rd motorcycle rode faster. (Orion on the passport could work on both). Therefore, I bought the 93rd at a gas station. Of course, no one thought about consumption ...
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Yes, I saw a lot of such alterations, like nothing so terrible as you say. True frame reinforce, yes. And the wheels are native ...

Yes, I’m off the track, fishing and chasing mushrooms)) The Karpatovsky engine, although it’s normal ... but I don’t want to install it again, I want something more serious)

And what was the expense, do not remember? Probably there will certainly be substantially more.
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Yes, and the mess with you, with "coming to Europe" can end at any time ... You can’t leave our village on an old moped if you did not register it with the traffic police. And so - just take out in a trailer somewhere and ride there. On the road they’ll take ...
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Dmitrij,
I advise you not to bother ... I was 17 then .... I took up a fool, and then it's too late to turn back ....
There are difficulties there - over the edge. When the engine was suspended, it turned out that it was more "pot-bellied, so the stars are in different planes .... Something, I remember, was wise with the entire engine moving to the side ... Then the wheel almost immediately went in eights - I set it from Voskhod, I had to do the rear fork practically different. And again, move the engine back .... Something else, I remember, roofing felts with a cylinder that rested on the tank did not grow together, roofing felts with clutching of the grooved paw (and maybe with that, with another ....) I was digesting the frame already ready, so that the motor could move the motor forward ... This is the third time already ...
By the way, why do you remember so well, after more than 20 years the name of the generator - it was then that I found out that they are the same, and you don’t have to redo the electrical part, place the other stabilizer switch and so on ....
Behaves a hundred normally pretty. (Or, I just at 17 was crazy and did not see the danger ....)))))))
True, I also replaced the front wheel with a 19-inch from the "gas" moped to load the rear as much as possible. The front stripe wing reinforced and secured to the lower fork bridge. So that "cool" looked like a cross ...)))))
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in, here I have a project ... Karpach with the Minsk engine)) I also want to surprise)

How is he at speed by the way? Still easy for 100 km / h, you can take off))
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And this is at 50 km / h! ))))) I remember these feelings, "Karpaty" was a frisky mopedik .... Then, over time, I put the engine from Minsk on it (I broke it, I remember, the head with a spinal frame - in the Minsk engine, after all ear on the cylinder to hang it). The rear wheel could not stand it. I had to expand the rear fork and stick the wheel from the "Voskhod" (16-inch) .... So after that, when he started to pick up a hundred in seconds (12 horses instead of two full-time ones, this is with his bird weight), this there were feelings ....And the faces of the Zhiguli and Moskvich drivers were especially delivering when they saw on the highway that they had a “two-speed”, hanging slightly behind, quickly circumambulating them and leaving “to the point” ....))) (Then they all drove 80 -90 maximum ....)
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And I had a V-50M engine, also electronic ignition. Of course the first time I squeezed everything on the second, it seemed that I was on a rocket)) Indescribable sensations.
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And I had a "Carpathians-2" (as in the first picture) with a V-50 engine. It already had electronic ignition on the G-421 generator. (He was put on the "Voskhod-3M" and Minsk, starting with MMVZ-3.112.
.... My grandfather gave it to me on my 14th birthday. Moreover, spontaneously: we went with him to the “Cultural goods”, he bought some kind of pens for pens, and I hung with my mouth open near the moped ... He called me, like, they’ve already gone .... but I don’t hear! . He came up, asked; “What do you like so much?” .... I answered: “Yes! Very much!” He went to the cash register and paid off (170 rubles !!!) ... He says: "Soon you have a birthday! This is a gift! And I will give my" Riga-11, I will go to the store on it! "
..... Ehhhh. All friends were jealous!
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15% fuel economy with a noticeable increase in engine traction Che, I doubt that the usual replacement of contact ignition with electronic will give such a difference. With electronic, a spark is more powerful and stable, but due to what an increase in traction?
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Why a "pack"? Only one is needed to ignite the fuel mixture
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It has long been. Did a similar ignition for a motorcycle
IZ Jupiter ... It turned out to be unreliable at startup. Because gives 1 (one) spark. And the old ignition gives a few (pack) of sparks

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