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How to transfer an electric generator to propane using a carburetor

How to transfer an electric generator to propane using a carburetor

This article will help those who can not solve the problem how to power a gas engine. do it yourselfusing improvised means. In fact, it is not as difficult as it seems, you just need to figure out how to dose gas and air. The author used a carburetor for such purposes, and as an experiment an electric generator was launched, now it can run on propane.

The use of gas is good in that it is cheaper than gasoline, and it can be stored in large volumes without much difficulty.
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Dangerously!
Using this generator indoors can be very dangerous. If the engine stalls, the gas will not stop flowing, and this will lead to an explosion. Of course, this can be avoided by equipping homemade special protective system that will turn off the gas if the engine stalls.

Materials and tools for homemade:
- old carburetor (the author used a broken one from the map);
- drill and drill;
- a tube with a diameter of 1/4 inch;
- sealant or other similar substance to seal unused openings;
- regulator from the gas grill BBQ;
- 1/4 inch copper compression needle valve;
- adapter with a torch 3/8;
- an adapter for connecting to a propane regulator and more.

Homemade manufacturing process:

Step one. We prepare the carburetor
You will need a small carburetor, it’s suitable for some kind of moped, lawn mower and other similar equipment. It can be searched at various metal depots, workshops, or even found in a landfill. In principle, you can redo the existing carburetor on the engine, but then it will never be able to work as before, since its design will be radically changed.

It’s still good not to touch the native carburetor because in this case it will be easy to switch to liquid fuel again by putting the native carburetor back.



The first step is to disassemble the carburetor and remove all unnecessary components. The author begins disassembling from the float chamber, from here the float and the needle valve are removed.

Then you can remove the throttle, it is fastened, as a rule, alone with a small screw. When the shutter is unscrewed, it will be possible to remove from the carburetor the shaft on which it sits.





You also need to remove all quality / quantity screws, all tubes, sprays, etc.Instead, the needle valve will control the fuel supply.












Inside the carburetor diffuser there is a fuel atomizer (copper tube), it must also be removed. For such purposes, you can use a screw.

Step Two Carburetor cleaning
After disassembling, the carburetor will need to be brought to perfect cleanliness, because now it has been given a second life. This can be done chemically or mechanically. The author used Dremel with a small nozzle, as well as an iron brush.


Step Three Drill carburetor
You need to take a drill and a drill with a diameter of 1/4 inch, with it you need to drill a hole in the center of the diffuser (in place of the old sprayer). After this, the carburetor must be thoroughly cleaned of chips, otherwise it will fall into the engine. The author used a chemical cleaner for such purposes.

Step Four Muffle unnecessary holes
After disassembling, there will be many holes in the carburetor that we will not need. To seal them, you can use a sealant. It is necessary to close all the holes, except for what was drilled in the step earlier.




Step Five We assemble and install a gas supply system
Gas will be supplied to the area with the lowest pressure, this area is in the diffuser, that is, its narrowest part. The nozzle is made from a tube 1/4 inch in diameter and 3 inches long. Everything is going as you can see in the photo. Teflon tape is used to seal all nodes.

Then the nozzle is inserted into the diffuser, according to the author, the best result is achieved when the tube goes 3/4 of the way. In other words, you need to experiment and adjust this parameter for your engine.







Even at the first start it turned out that a lot of air enters the motor, that is, the mixture is too lean. To fix this, the author equipped the carburetor with an additional damper that allows you to control the amount of incoming air.

The final stage. Testing and launch
Before starting, you need to check whether the valve is closed, and then open the gas supply from the cylinder. Then the needle valve needs to be turned about 3 turns and after that it is necessary to immediately start the engine. If after several attempts it does not start, you need to shut off the gas supply and wait a bit until the gas escapes.

After the engine is started, you need to try to raise or lower the tube supplying gas to the diffuser. Having found the optimum value, the tube is fixed with epoxy.
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Lord! 4-stroke engines are always installed on gas generators. Therefore, no oil injection is needed, it is filled in the crankcase. And the author’s idea is raw.
And with a meager consumption (a couple of liters per day) - what's the point of doing this?
1 to 1, I was provided by the 5th generation Dutch installation, with direct injection and integration with the engine ECU! I paid, I remember, for her that about 1300 dollars! But then I traveled a lot and it paid off in six months - about 60 thousand miles.
... But even she eventually killed me the engine much faster than gasoline would have done, although the ignition “danced for her,” and she took everything into account - from the load to the current engine temperature ... Octane numbers are different ...
And with a hose you will not very accurately adjust the fuel mixture. This will turn out to be an analog of the 2nd generation, where gas was simply supplied to the highway. Remember these ever-stinking "anachronisms"?
Author
we have gas 11 UAH, gasoline 22-23 UAH (92). In any case, gas consumption will not be twice as much gasoline, which means it is profitable for large volumes. In general, 1k1 consumption is approximately.And what do you think that there will be an overspending? The speed is stable, the mixture can be set up quite qualitatively.
I started the Volgov engine 2410 in a similar way. I applied gas directly to the intake manifold, connecting the hose from the gas cylinder to the fitting from the vacuum brake booster.

Well, and how do you kill dead engines with ether in the cold? In the same way! The ether splashed into the air, and for some short time it worked on it .... Really did not try?
Ksati, based on the same principles of reasonable sufficiency ....
... And why translate it into gas?
I agree in this matter with Delausam! What do we get in practice? What are the improvements?
Saving? ... I doubt it! Gas consumption with such a self-made design will be high. You will not get significant savings ...
Author
We are talking about "what if ..." I say it is possible to supply 2T with gas, but improvements are needed. Beneficial or not, another question. Oh well, yours is not my understanding)
Dmitry, yes, well, you take it so literally, right? )))).
I just hinted in a joking manner that the principles of reasonable sufficiency were respected! Indeed, it is wrong to come up with an aggregate whose lubrication system is more complicated than the engine itself!
Why are push-pulls still alive? After all, they have less efficiency (read: uneconomical) and less resource ... I generally keep quiet about the environment ...

Yes, because they are much simpler and cheaper than their four-stroke counterparts !!!
And with your modifications, this engine is equal in price and complexity to a four-stroke, if it does not overtake ...
And what do we get on the way out? Sophisticated expensive unit, significantly inferior in efficiency and ecology ???
Author
The pump can be driven by the same engine, and there it is necessary for the pump ... There is a high pressure pump in the injector, it generally works on electricity. In a diesel engine there is a mechanical pump, powered by an engine (whichever is finite).

In addition, it is possible to make a pump with zero losses - apply pressure from the cylinder on the other side (if the piston pump). That is, the pressure at the back, the pressure at the front, well, the pressure in the tank with the tank.

In short, your words do not argue me ...)

And what kind of pressure are we talking about? Where does the cylinder pressure come from? Greasing goes under compression rings, but not above them. And in the crankcase pressure is scanty, in addition, there are rarefaction phases.
The piston at the top is narrowed by the way, oil can be injected into this area.
Dmitrij,
through the holes in the cylinder.

Everything is decided by the enthusiasm derisive


Intuition in this case is not enough))). She (this very enthusiasm) does not compensate for the pressure from the cylinder into these holes ...)))). Here we need a powerful pump, driven, most likely, by a separate engine, and this time (to make it easier), four-stroke.)))))) boss dance3
Author
where to where, under the piston in the form of "fog". The oil should be heated and then pass under pressure through the nozzle. Somewhere I wrote about a homemade potbelly stove that worked on working off, here there is such a principle.

To save, of course, you need to maintain separate channels for lubricating the piston and elbow bearing. As a result, gas will not displace oil from the crankcase (and if it does, then in very small quantities) and the two-stroke engine will run on gas.

Another two-stroke engine can be redone by equipping it with two pistons. One piston will be of a small section, it will separate the crankcase with the working cylinder, as a result, the knee will be lubricated individually. It remains only to figure out how to lubricate the piston. Well, here, as an option, you can apply a "fog" of oil, the consumption will be small. Well, or put two rows of oil scraper rings, and apply oil between them through the holes in the cylinder.

Enthusiasm decides derisive
unless to come up with some kind of "oil injector"

"oil injector" where? ))))
Well, I say - it is necessary to find gaseous oil and mix into propane !!! ))) Just something and business, y-mine !!!

I remembered ...When Germany united, a problem arose among the East Germans - “Trabants” and “Wartburgs” .. These "popular brands" of cars fell under an environmental ban - two-stroke engines in Europe are prohibited with volumes of more than 50 cubes.
As a result, it was possible to go to Germany and pick up these cars for free - it’s expensive to dump in a landfill, so the Germans gladly gave ....
Accordingly, we sold them for 50-200 dollars, and all the villages were filled with them ...
So, one "very smart" owner of the trabant drove him to the service station and asked to put a gas installation. ))). They tried to explain to him, but he understood only one thing: "You bastards! As a rich man goes to BNV, they will do everything !! And here, of course, they don’t want a messenger with cheap cars !!"
..And he began to dirty them in every way !!! I wrote complaints, knocked on the tax ...
As a result, the owner of the car service himself offered him a FREE installation of a gas installation (pay only for the equipment itself), but before that he drew up an order-form in all form, and took a receipt from him that he explained the consequences of installing a gas cylinder on a two-stroke engine ...
... Enough "trabant" only to drive halfway home !!! )))) The engine sank in the moment ..

REAL STORY!!! The car owner is my classmate.
P.S. More and more convinced that the ability to at least a little THINK was given not to everyone ....
Author
and, in this regard) well, yes ... unless you come up with some kind of "oil injector"
Quote: Dmitrij
Yes, for what you don’t like two-stroke engines) It will work on gas, it will also be ...) In fact, it works on “fumes”.

I love them very much and therefore take care of their "health". ))) What is it "poor" when working on gas) will lubricate its "joints"?
Dmitry, and where is gaseous oil sold?))))
Author
Yes, for what you don’t like two-stroke engines) It will work on gas, it will also be ...) In fact, it works on “fumes”.

I started the Volgov engine 2410 in a similar way. I applied gas directly to the intake manifold, connecting the hose from the gas cylinder to the fitting from the vacuum brake booster. The gas supply was regulated on the cylinder by a tap.
Of course I didn’t start right away, but I started it, I worked perfectly at idle, and even a small gas preparation was successful.
For a two-stroke engine, this will not work, the author does not seem to write this. But in general, what domestic need may there be to take advantage of this?
I don’t know whether it is worth promoting such dangerous things: gas equipment is not a joke, amateur performances with it are unacceptable.
How to transfer an electric generator to propane using a carburetor


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But it turned out - about the benzene generator ...))))

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