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Everyone was faced with such a phenomenon as the burnout of lamps in lamps, chandeliers, etc. .. Incandescent bulbs even exploded and brought trouble. Now almost everyone uses LED lamps and lamps with LED strips. But the troubles did not decrease, since these devices burn out and do not meet the requirements of customers. Often manufacturers simply fool consumers. I figured out the smallest subtleties of this problem and solved them very successfully. The end result of everything was a system of highly reliable use of LED lamps, lamps, tapes, taking into account their modernization and the transition to a safer wiring diagram. The main disadvantage in LED lamps is the driver circuit, which converts the mains voltage to the voltage and current necessary for LED arrays. These schemes are not entirely perfect and are practically not friendly with our networks. By burning, they burn the matrix and the lamps stop working.

The photo shows how these diagrams look after burnout. So, to prevent this from happening, I decided to completely abandon these boards and use only a bridge rectifier circuit and an electrolytic capacitor with a resistor connected in parallel with it inside the lamps. This scheme is universal for all lamps and is calculated taking into account the built-in matrixes and the use case with the system. The system is an uninterrupted, stabilized, with a special form of alternating voltage unit and additional devices - dimmers (dimmers). They allow you to adjust the brightness of the glow of chandeliers, lamps and are very convenient in practical use.



The system unit consists of a separate box, two built-in switching power supplies, a battery compartment and a converter module. The block is calculated from the value of the maximum load on the lighting of the apartment. Using this system, the lamps simply do not burn out and do not pulsate.And most importantly, all this in general allows you to save time, money, nerves and health.
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zx0335zx,
how to ban such clever people?
I think for starters you need to acquire the rights of a site administrator!
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how to ban such clever people?
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Ivan_Pokhmelev,
Yes, I had to face a similar problem. A friend’s house was built in the 70s, he built a construction battalion and heaped such a thing that they had to lay a box along the baseboard and lay a copper wire in it. And the native wires are all aluminum, I had to do a Russian spike.
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Razrabotchik, if the lighting wiring is made separately from the outlet, then there are no problems, nothing will have to be redone for an ordinary apartment. But only typical builders when working on a standard project often lead a common line to the room or group of rooms, from which lines are laid out in boxes to light and sockets.
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Pronin,
So far, it turns out only to personally install these systems, according to recommendations for friends and acquaintances. I do this in my free time from my main job. It’s not interesting for me to open a company for this business, they won’t let me live normally. Yes, and bgm.imdmyself.com I think I have nothing to do, I went from another browser and did not find myself, all this garbage ...
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Ivan_Pokhmelev,
The wiring diagram remains the same as it was, but of course the audit must be done in junction boxes, you need a lighting line that is not connected to 220v sockets. I had to redo this and didn’t take so much time.
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Razrabotchik,
saving is when you buy hazardous lamps, lamps, ribbons at the expense of your health. Use what should burn, as in Lame Horse or Winter Cherry, have you heard of such fires? After all, it all started with lamps and their drivers lit up. I say such savings - no. And above is like believing in God, in love, once and for all. Therefore, the developed system will work, for everyone who installed it, once and for the rest ...

So I wanted to throw my hands up to the sky and yell: "Al-l-liluy-yya !!!".))))
Very similar to the preaching of various pseudo-confessions ...
... "Do you want to be saved? !!! You do not want to burn in hell, as the Japanese burned in the flame of Herosima after they rejected the Creator, and continued to be filled with their God ?? ")))) ... I say to such Gods - NO !!! ... The Faith offered by me will save you !!!" ...
flud
A joke, of course, ... But .... There is something, agree ...)))
P.S. Recently, he advised his son-in-law which lamp to buy better ... And he advised it with replaceable lamps. Now the LEDs are arranged in all form factors ... And the lamp is good one in which then it is EASY and SIMPLE to change the bulb ... And, if I have a choice between an easy change every year or two, or difficult, but every 3-4 , OF course, SAME, I will choose the easy one!)))
I just didn’t have enough to open the lamps (which would have been under warranty for a year), and solder something in them ...))) And for the sake of this hemorrhoids, should I redo something?)))
As for “Ay-yai-yay !! Anyi is harmful!”, Then, I’m sorry, I myself know very well how the sales regulation tool such as “ecology” is used ... If a new product appears that needs to be sold more expensive than the old analogue (or, which is worse in terms of consumer properties, but at the same price), then the old analogue is declared "harmful" here, and the new one is "useful" ...(Remember, if only a toothpaste “with fluorine-free fluorine, or“ a chain of new glass wool names ”-“ glass wool-mineral wool-stone wool-basalt wool ”. Each flowed from the previous one (glass is sand, sand is crushed minerals, minerals are stones, basalt is a special case of a mineral (stone).) And, despite the fact that they sold ONE AND SAME product, but introducing each new name, they justified this by saying that the previous product is harmful, and this one is green!).
So it is with lamps ... The same lamps that I buy home, I buy for production ... And, something nobody found anything harmful to health in them, although measurements and checks of the illumination of workplaces are done regularly, as you understand ... And the devices at the CMSC are also serious ... And the requirements ... As they themselves say, "You can hang anything at home! And we won’t allow you at workplaces."))))

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What, then, did you forget about the Cathedral of the Parisian Mother of God?

What kind of mother?
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Razrabotchik,
And in addition to saving - separately, because
For those who are especially literate, super-saving is written together because: super-prefix; -econom-root! Regardless of your mistakes! yes
as in Lame Horse or Winter Cherry, have you heard of such fires?
And beyond is like believing in God
What, then, did you forget about the Cathedral of the Parisian Mother of God? xaxa
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as in Lame Horse or Winter Cherry, have you heard of such fires? After all, it all started with lamps and their drivers lit up.
You are distributing false information. In the "Lame Horse" the fire began due to pyrotechnics, in the "Winter Cherry" - due to a circuit in the wiring.
And your specific question: why are you silent in your advertising stories about the need to completely redo the wiring?
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Valery,
Yes, the cat is still sitting in the bag, but it is white and not black and sleeps sweetly. And in addition to saving - separately, because saving is when you buy hazardous lamps, lamps, ribbons at the expense of your health. Use what should burn, as in Lame Horse or Winter Cherry, have you heard of such fires? After all, it all started with lamps and their drivers lit up. I say such savings - no. And above is like believing in God, in love, once and for all. Therefore, the developed system will work, for everyone who installed it, once and for the rest ...
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Quote: Valery
I will be happy if I spend 2 rubles ($ 1) more than once every two years, but once every three or four years? !!!
And among the cheap ones they come across, in general, the quality is gradually growing. The question is not only in the service life. It is important that the quality of the emitted light is high enough. The cheapest ones usually have ripples above the norm.
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Valery,
I take cheap ("IEK", "Space") ...
Recently I went to a specialty store, which bulbs are not there! And I was in a hurry, and to get a grasp of small price tags with characteristics with my eyesight, it’s still fun! I tell the seller: "Good, not flickering, E-27 base, temperature 2700-3000, power 5-7 W, the price does not matter." Vpariil some ASD-elektro, at 76 rubles., Although I calculated 150 rubles at least! scratch
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Valery
What is my goal?

You perfectly, I think, understood that I had something else in mind: what kind of goal are you pursuing, trying to advertise a "pig in a poke", not to say, due to which this effect is achieved.
Of course, people have a conclusion about something, "not entirely honest." Because two years of light already work. For one year, any (even the cheapest) is guaranteed. So how to check your technology ??? Buy and wait about ten years ?? (For example, I have diode lamps that were bought in the 11th year !!! Nine years work !!!).
After all, if you do not want to declassify the device, then it is possible, at least, to voice the principle itself!
In the meantime, we hear about some kind of “3 Volt and 36 Volt diodes”, while the concept of “operating voltage” does not exist for diodes ....

Ivan_Pokhmelev,
I take cheap ones ("IEK", "Cosmos") ... For a year there is a guarantee "automatically" after all ... They work, as a rule, much longer ... What is the point of saving? I will be happy if I spend 2 rubles ($ 1) more than once every two years, but once every three or four years? !!!
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Ivan_Pokhmelev,
Yes, not you. But the article is about saving.
By the way, over-saving is not in choosing a good manufacturer, as you write (it's just saving). Just don't need to turn on the lights xaxa
Generally on light bulbs. The problem is that when it burns out I already forgot where I bought it-)))
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Ivan_Pokhmelev,
Did I write about saving?
We carefully read the title of the article:
Over saving on electricity with perfect lighting in the house
I’m not talking about spelling, super-economy is written together, I’m talking about the prefix “over”, and even perfect lighting! xaxa
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Quote: pogranec
And what talk about saving then, if you also stick the battery in there,

Did I write about saving?
For even more reliability add battery
Do not find that there is nothing about saving in the rationale for using the battery7))
Reliability and profitability very often often are the opposite of each other, although sometimes reliability is achieved quite cheaply.
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Ivan_Pokhmelev,
And what kind of saving talk then, if you also stick the battery in there, which is not known how long it will work?
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All purchased bulbs are opened, the driver is thrown,

Dude went a very roundabout way, a very roundabout way. ((
It would be much more correct to increase reliability, since we still do separate lighting wiring (which he modestly kept silent about), apply standard LED constant current lamps and power them with a slightly reduced voltage. Power source to take with a good margin. For even greater reliability add a battery connected by a simple circuit. The battery is some kind of acid.
To increase efficiency, so that the power of the IPS idle is not lost with the lights off, you can also further refine the system. How? For those who understand - this is obvious, the rest - it is not necessary to know.))
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ino53,
I hope you do not find it intrusive ...
Please forgive me generously, I understand that the failure to fulfill promises is unforgivable, but yesterday I would have to open the warehouse that was put under guard and the alarm, or climb onto a concrete pillar! But seriously, then: Kadoshkinsky Electrotechnical Plant JSC, GALAD Pobeda, LED-100-K / K50, net weight - 4.5 kg. Champ technology - N, ISO 9001: 2008, 95lm / W. I apologize again! sorry
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Razrabotchik
Can second man of the kingdom accidentally interested and build a small factory for this business
I wonder who it could be, if not Chubais for an hour? xaxa
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ino53,
All purchased bulbs are opened, the driver is thrown ...
And the "divorced" suckers - customers who managed to hang noodles on their ears, are forever attached to Razrabotchik! xaxa
Usually it is at 3 volts, nine, eighteen. True, I met at 36 volts
And on 12, 24, 27 In Razrabotchik-u not met? xaxa
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Continuation of personal correspondence:
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I didn’t write to him in PM. ok
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Razrabotchik, Of course, you did not answer me, but such an incoherent set of words is difficult to understand. ((

Simple text matching
The system is an uninterrupted, stabilized, with a special form of alternating voltage unit and additional devices - dimmers (dimmers).
The system unit consists of a separate box, two built-in switching power supplies, a battery compartment and a converter module.
, poorly corresponding photograph and description of the scheme addressed to texts in no way addressed ino53, allows us to conclude that 2Dem right
And the nickname chosen by the author indirectly confirms this.
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Razrabotchik,
Maybe the second person in the kingdom will be interested in it by chance and build a small factory for this business,
- I hope this does not happen. All superideas, with the attraction of the first persons of the kingdom, end with diving into the pocket of the population.
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Razrabotchik, but Jura hides his fraudulent activities and comes up with work in one funny research institute. The Jura has brains for deception, for something useful - no. People, usually Chinese, are still interested in technical inventions, but not inventions to deceive the population. Grandfather is the same scammer and a handshake was like you? Or do you disgrace him in vain by hitting yourself, and Jura?

Pronin, on investor sites you need to upload something sensible and, ideally, show something working. And Jura has only a couple of pictures and a desire to find suckers who will pay him a lot of money for the rape of electricians, and then they will not make claims.
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Maybe the second person in the kingdom will be interested in and build a small factory for this business, and I, in turn, would oversee everything in the process.

There are also sites for search and investors. dance
< Каждого изобретателя волнует вопрос поиска инвертора. Получится ли заинтересовать или вообще найти инвестора для своей работы. «Изумрудная долина» облегчает эту задачу. Ведь у нас инвесторы сами ищут интересные изобретения, которые готовы финансировать >
But here, even the outfit in the primitive (even without SCHEMES and TP justifications) does not work.
In the apartment (premises) N light bulbs for 200 watts shine. You are powered from the network (through the box) U * I = 200W. Saving can be only when replacing bulbs with more economical ones. And this has already been done before us (instead of glowing - LED).
Save by reducing the supply voltage? The spectrum and lighting will change ...
And friends at all are not sponsors with money.
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ino53,
developed this system for space stations and lunar bases ... will build a small factory ... and I, in turn, would oversee everything in the process


Yayayasasnoooo, our client.

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Very reminiscent of all BTG-Schnick.
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ino53,
In parallel with the capacitor, you need to add a 47k resistor to discharge the electrolyte, so that the bulb goes out faster when turned off ...

And what will shine there?
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ino53,
In parallel with the capacitor, you need to add a 47k resistor to discharge the electrolyte, so that the bulb goes out faster when turned off ...

Valery,
What is my goal? My personal goals have long been achieved, but in our kingdom a lot of waste from burning out bulbs. My grandfather also developed this system for space stations and lunar bases, and I just upgraded it to LED. Maybe the second person in the kingdom will be interested in and build a small factory for this business, and I, in turn, would oversee everything in the process. And as a result, light bulbs would become cheaper, dangerous garbage in the courtyards decreased and the light in the houses always pleased.
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2Dem,
Yura is an open person and does not hide his face, contacts and works quietly in one funny research institute. Unlike all the evil boys who have no faces, no names or brains, he is realist and like his grandfather everything is arguing in his hands. And home-made is not a finished product, and if people, usually Chinese, are interested, then everything is brought to an industrial result ...
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Quote: Razrabotchik

Judging by the code - Moscow?
Of course, it’s possible to agree ... Only now, somehow I don’t feel like taking a vacation at my own expense, traveling a thousand kilometers, staying in a hotel to ... see some incredibly cunning diode bridge and Conder? ..) )))
Of course, I am very grateful for your desire to help us all save money, only now ... I must say right away that if this savings will later be less for me, at least a few hundred dollars a year, then you should not even consider this trip ...) )))
Comment, of course, is not serious ... But, seriously, then ...
I don’t understand either ... What is your goal?
If you just share your thoughts and developments, then why don't you post it? Why so much mystery?
If you think that you have invented something worthwhile and want to make money on it (which is also not shameful), then why don’t you outline (without key points) the principle and, most importantly, the real calculations and test results?
P.S. For work, sometimes you need to buy some equipment somewhere, which ... "I don’t know which one, but I know what I want from it" ... For example, recently a pump was needed for pumping colloidal masses. The companies involved in pumps called up ... They asked for catalogs of their pumps with characteristics ... Some immediately started to “get smart” - to the question “What colloidal pumps do you have?”, They started asking what pipelines we had, what pump performance we were interested in, what kind of masses we will pump, what kind of pumping time we are interested in, and so on. At the same time, questions like "Give me the characteristics of the pumps" are about these "that you can sell, but I will choose what I need, they immediately dismissed ... I immediately thanked and put the phone down. The assistant" hung around "- entered into negotiations with some .. I gave them my number. Then I filled out some tables they sent ... I drew them our diagrams of the proposed pipelines ...
At that moment, when I found the pump, they “rolled out” the price for a similar one more than five times higher !! But, "scientifically selected."))))

I recalled a joke about how a secret check was supposed to come to GUM under the USSR. And all sellers were strictly ordered to somehow get out and not say that many scarce goods were simply not on sale (they left "to the left from the counter"). And here is a scene:
Buyer: "Do you have gloves?"
Salesman: "Yes! And who are you interested in?"
- And what do you have?
- And you will wear them under what clothes?
- Under the coat.
- You come in this coat the other day, we will pick it up.
- Thanks!...

A man from the line, leaning toward the customer:
- Do not believe !!! I already brought the toilet! And he showed his ass twice !! And toilet paper is still being picked up !!!
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Quote: Korolev
01/04/2020 I will go to work ... I will unsubscribe ....


I hope you do not find it intrusive ...
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Sorry, repeat sorry
Guys, I got a letter in PM, it’s kind of sober, but I won’t figure out what it is about, enlighten ...



It seems like the description is so.


What's next?
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Razrabotchik,
But is it really difficult, well, not a diagram, a light description to scribble?
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Yes, I'll see in the comments all the foreigners and ghosts, students and hochmachi. Of course, I understand that holidays, all thoughts disappear, and disbelief in the topic presented may even be somewhat reasonable for a kindergarten. But the scheme really works and I invite everyone to a cognitive tour to their home. You can take your appliances, measure everything, take characteristics and get a free cup of tea with gingerbread. Call on the home arrange an appointment ...
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R555
had to steal
To "grab" is not a problem, the question is where to punch the "cobra" into the hall or into the toilet? xaxa
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Korolev, there it was about saving energy, well, you worked in factories and you had to steal drinks
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R555
Even cosine f indicated
Student on the exam: "Three-phase networks are networks with three wires, current flows through one wire, voltage across the other, and cosine fi through the third!" xaxa
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Ivan_Pokhmelev
Perhaps this is the only person in the world who succeeded
Quite a lot of people they saythat they managed something! xaxa
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You won’t believe it, but there are many such sites. Like many theories. Now the themes of alternative history are more popular than ever. And the most amazing thing is that in some places these are really adequate people who perceive the arguments and do not carry nonsense, in some places they give really weighty evidence that make you think hard and they have no argument - I believe that. We lagged behind life shorter)))
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I figured out the smallest subtleties of this problem and solved them very successfully.
Perhaps this is the only person in the world who succeeded. xaxa
The photo shows how these diagrams look after burnout.
Sorry, the photo is missing, but this, however, is not significant. )))
use inside the lamps only a bridge rectifier circuit and an electrolytic capacitor with a resistor connected in parallel with it.
We do not need a ballast capacitor and a resistor-limiter of the starting current, but we modestly ignore the pulsations of the light flux. fool
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.......
An interesting twist ... Do they have a website? Although to communicate with such as religious fanatics - I believe that!
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What are you, my friend, so radically insulting people by comparing with this rudgehog))) Not all BTG nicknames are bad. The only bad ones are those who use modern components, they are definitely scammers. But there are people who believe that just recently, we had a highly developed civilization and in comparison with it we already live in the Stone Age. These are people who want to discover our present past and they also believe that there were real BTGs.
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I came up with that, I came up with this, and to whom it is not clear - call me on the phone. Very reminiscent of all BTG-Schnick. In general, the article is some kind of advertising. Added to tips, what is the advice to call?
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Even cosine f indicated xaxa
Mali who do not know
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In the chat I’ll teach you how to publish photos, you need to reduce the size by singing, the Admin forbids about a thousand
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Here is etd drossy
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I'll show you this ballast
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Throttle, And the starter, the old fashioned way
I have this throttle in my inventory in sight
I want to stir up Nikolai Tesla’s coil, to push energy without wires. boss

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