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We make from a gasoline car - an electric car



And it is necessary, to convert a gasoline car into an electric one, just a little, replace the ICE engine with an electric one. How Master has dealt with this task, we will learn from this article. He used to do that before car and he has a lot of material on this subject. For those interested, you can watch several videos by clicking on the link. This is not a pure instruction, but rather a direction indicator.

Tools and materials:
-Car;
-Various tools and equipment (wrenches, screwdrivers, drilling machine, etc.);
-Engine from electric lift truck;
-Batteries;
-Coupling;
-Controller;
-Wire;
-Jack;

Step One: Car
The first thing you need to do is choose the right car. They are not all equally suitable for conversion into an electric car. You need something lightweight and energy efficient.

Heavier cars need more energy when driving, and thus, batteries run out faster. Hydro or electric power steering and brakes, power windows and electric locks are also not needed. In general, you need as little power-consuming appliances as possible.

As a result, the master acquired Geo Metro for $ 500. The engine worked fine and the body was in good condition. The clutch did not work, but in an electric car it was not needed, however, like a regular engine.


Step Two: Dismantling
It is necessary to remove everything related to the gasoline internal combustion system. Dismantle: gas tank, exhaust system, muffler, coil, starter, radiator, fuel lines, etc. Removing all unnecessary parts will reduce weight and simplify subsequent installation of equipment. The master did not touch the airbags and other elements of passive and active protection.

If everything is carefully dismantled, then you can sell parts to cover costs. The master bought the car for $ 500, but then sold the engine, gas tank and radiator for $ 550.




Step Three: Adapter Plate
The engine has been dismantled, but the standard gearbox will be used in the future.The question is how to attach the motor to the gearbox? The master found a way out and made an adapter plate from a piece of aluminum sheet. The master took the gearbox out of the car and then outlined it with a pencil and marked all the holes. Then he cut the aluminum plate to the desired size and shape. The center of the drive shaft of the engine and the center of the drive shaft of the transmission should be perfectly aligned.

Before screwing the engine and transmission together with the adapter plate, it is necessary to make a coupling that will connect both shafts.




Step Four: Coupling
You can connect the motor shafts and gearboxes in different ways, but the master decided to use a clutch from some mechanism.


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With this connection, the car worked all summer. Then there was a breakdown. The master thinks that alignment has not been completely observed. Then the clutch was a little redone.




Step Five: Motor
Master bought his motor for $ 50 at the garage some guy. It was a motor from a forklift. The motor was very old and rusty, but working. The master cleaned it, removed the coils and sprayed insulating epoxy on them, checked the bearings. Also replaced the brushes, put it all together and painted.





Step Six: Batteries
This car uses 6 12V batteries. These are real Deka Dominator helium batteries. They do not require maintenance. The master was able to buy used batteries at $ 12 apiece.

The disadvantage of these batteries is that they are demanding on charging. The master purchased a 72 V charger designed for these batteries for $ 200.

Four batteries are in the trunk of the car, and two are in the front, where the radiator used to be.
For the rear batteries, the master cut two parts of the bed frame so that they lay on the spare wheel and bolted the frame to the frame of the car.

To install the front batteries, the bumper was dismantled. Then the frame is welded and fixed in place of the radiator. Now you need to install the batteries and put the bumper in place.

In the store, the master bought a “charger power input”. This is an electrical connector with a rubber cover. Since the gas tank has already been removed, it has a connector in place of the neck of the gas tank.

Batteries are charged overnight.






Subsequently, the wizard changed the configuration of the batteries. The maximum number of batteries is 12 pieces, which gave the master 144 V. On these batteries, he was able to accelerate to 117 km / h.

He also works on a battery heater in the winter.

Seventh step: controller
The controller is an important part of an electric vehicle. The controller is electronic unit that regulates the operation of the electric motor.

The wizard uses a Curtis 400 A peak PWM controller designed for use with series motors. It can operate in the range from 48 to 72V.
The greater the current strength, the better the acceleration (thrust). The higher the voltage, the better the maximum speed and economy of the car.

The 72 V controller proved to be a good compromise in cost and efficiency. Master bought it on E-Bay for $ 300.
To connect, follow the diagrams provided by the controller manufacturer; use thick cables, such as a welding cable, to connect the batteries to the controller and motor.

The master uses a 5 kΩ potentiometer as a choke. The potentiometer is installed in conjunction with the standard gas pedal.

Step Eight: Summary
This car can travel 32 km on a charge, and has a maximum speed of 75 km / h. This is enough for a trip to work and back. If necessary, add batteries.

This project cost the master about $ 1,200, including the purchase of a car. If the master did everything himself, he would have spent only $ 800 on everything. This car is charged in the master’s private home through a renewable energy program. All electricity comes from wind, biogas and other renewable energy sources.

The master mainly drives in third gear, but the engine torque is such that you can start with the fourth.





Heater.
Since this car no longer has the original engine, it also does not have a heater.If necessary, you can install a ceramic heater.

The brakes.
One of the reasons why the master chose this car was that it has manual windows, manual locks, a manual gearbox, and steering without a mechanical drive. The only problem was the brakes. Established brakes have a vacuum booster. With the dismantling of the engine, the brakes do not work as needed. To start, the master played with an aquarium air pump, just to find out how the vacuum brake system works. After that, I started looking for a 12-volt air pump so that it could be used as a vacuum pump. As a result, a 12 V pump and an aluminum cylinder receiver were installed. As soon as the pressure in the cylinder drops, the pump starts to work.

Now the car has power brakes, as it was originally, only it is driven by a tiny electric motor in a small pump, and not a gasoline engine.
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133 commentary
Guest Alexander
He had to take an aircraft DC generator as an engine. And then the gearbox could be thrown out
And it may well be, and in some ways ahead of it.

For instance? What can artisanal homemade products be ahead of the factory product, when it comes to the high-tech field ???
Of course, it has the right to life ... But only in terms of "for lack of a maid the master had a janitor" ...)))))
A good example of how to do something new from a handyman.
Yes, such an interference fit is beneficial. But if we go further, find the most optimal solutions, we ourselves will make a modern electric transport, and it will not be inferior to the industrial one! And it may well be, and in some ways ahead of it.
Thanks to the author for courage, patience and hard work.
Guest Vasya
Enchanting ...
My cat Vaska is better brought up! fool
Guest Vasya
Enchanting Dolby
Valery
Won how it went!
Yes, for free (stolen), and not such miracles happen! Our corruption bureaucrats still do not make it!
P.S. What is right in this case: to die happy, or to die from happiness? yahoo
From the trunk? Despite priscalitmaz? ...
Children's Kama Sutra as amended by Chukovsky:

.... Wolves - on a mare!
Lions in a car ...
Bunnies - in the tram ... etc.

P.S. .. And the elephant, ALL YEAST ......)))))
Oops! Then he complains of senile weakness! )))). And here is on you! ... Won how it happened! ))))))))))
P.S. Love is - I did it all ages are submissive to her!
Valery, do you already have a mosquito on a bicycle?

I have ???? ... No-ee! I only have a spherical horse running in a vacuum! )))
An example with a mosquito is not mine!))))
I don’t need the trunk and hold the control. The decisive one was lined with mine.
Valery
mosquito rides a bicycle
Valery! Well, do not you know that this is not right! And rightly so:
Bears rode on a bike!
And behind them the cat backwards!
And after him, mosquitoes in a balloon!
(K. Chukovsky) xaxa
R555
Was recently at the trakhodrome
For water money? Everything, fuck moralizing, the end justifies the means, stop all the counters, for the money saved - into a brothel! xaxa
New Standard
Little cycle generator 6 V, 3 W (according to passport) at a bike speed of 70 km / h makes about 320 revolutions per second (320 Hz)
mosquito rides a bicycle and an elephant rides a bicycle, in both the speed of 70km / h
Well, finally, you yourself came to the conclusion that at a speed of 70 km / h, the generator rotor does 320 r / s, and he does not care who rides a bicycle, a mosquito, an elephant or someone else! smile
Valery, do you already have a mosquito on a bicycle? And we have a New standard and R555 we are going in a cart with a machine gun Old Man Makhno. Why? I have Cossacks in the family and have been. Got it, no? Forbidden.
the mosquito rides a bicycle and the elephant rides a bicycle, both have a speed of 70 km / h, only the force that they apply to the pedals is different, there is clearly not enough mosquito force for elephant speed,

For an even rectilinear movement - enough !!! Even the deputy)))) (We are not talking about acceleration, but about speed)))))))) And they even catch a spherical horse in a vacuum.))))
By the way, the "tank road" passes by my summer house!)))))
Korolev Speed ​​with low or high power, for example: a mosquito rides a bicycle and an elephant rides a bicycle, both have a speed of 70 km / h, only the force that they apply to the pedals is different, there is clearly no mosquito force for elephant speed, then the developed power and them when driving is different. For an elephant, the weight makes it possible to generate more power. And in the gears, for example, the axles are not pressed, there is a grip of teeth, less friction, inappropriately and 200 g
Was recently at the trakhodrome, I can’t recover about 2 days. Such girls are there!
Roads, roads ... It was the last time at the training camp in Brest, so at the tank track there is generally no asphalt or ballot boxes smile
New Standard
What do you need to rotate the generator apply Not only speed, but also power, he thinks that only speed need to
About applying speed in more detail, please! Sorry, dear, do you know how to read? Is it possible for you to comprehend what you read?
The rotor speed of the generator and is provided some effortattached by the tire cover to the driven wheel on the rotor shaft
LeoBrynn Explain Korolev
First you need to understand the basic mechanics yourself, that speed cannot exist abstractly, by itself, and it is impossible to put it anywhere! It can be given with some effort! Are we discussing a specific bicycle generator on the wheel of a particular bicycle? We are trying to answer your question:
What power does the generator give
Or are you talking about some abstract
"pure zero gravity" ... 310 W nominal (estimated) power ... maybe not the right generator ... 30% then my condition ...
Your statement:
and here the force with which the generator shaft is pressed, he is pressed by a small spring, there is a pressing force of 200 grams
do not make fun of you at all! And you just can’t understand what exactly these 200 grams provide for the rotation of the generator rotor, and your own weight can in no way affect the power generated by the generator! smile
New Standard, I read our joint dialogue. I believe that you are correctly talking about predicted, possible capacity. Express your versions, discuss options with your opponents. We explain to you what are the shortcomings, errors. We conduct dialogue on an equal footing, as a Student with a Professor and vice versa, a Professor with a Student. Let's not be insulted. Regards, R555.
Leobrynn Explain KorolevThat for rotation of the generator it is necessary to apply not only speed, but also force, he believes that only speed is necessary. And also explain to him that to determine the power that a bike weighing 130 kg develops at a speed of 70 km / h, its weight must be taken into account, otherwise he does not believe it!))
310 W conditional (estimated) power that can be squeezed out from 70 km / h driving speed, 130 kg, maybe not with that generator, but it is there, it just doesn’t want to count, all hope is for pragmatists))
Korolev The astronauts on the ISS have a fulcrum — the hull of the spacecraft, “pure zero gravity” does not provide for any walls of the spacecraft.
"it is impossible to get an arbitrarily large power from a specific generator, with specific stator magnets and specific rotor windings!" I do not agree, it all depends on the speed of rotation of the shaft and the force applied to the rotation, if you add a multiplier then you can increase the speed and, accordingly, the power, the only question is the physical limit of destruction of the generator itself.
Well forgot about 310 W and 30%, for example, I'm wrong there until I measure, then just give the answer to the question: what power is needed to accelerate a bike weighing 130 kg to a speed of 70 km / h?
Leobrynn
Yes, I'm not really talking about it.
Well, I think a person already understood everything:
Let’s take an ammeter and a voltmeter
smile
Yes, I'm not really talking about that. If a person does not understand that the voltage when measuring the short-circuit current will be so far not the same as at idle. So let him measure it. Only there will be screams that we advised this, and his voltmeter does not work! xaxa
Leobrynn
Igor, explain it easier
I will try: it is impossible to get an arbitrarily large amount from a specific generator, with specific stator magnets and specific rotor windingsatyu power! smile
Igor, explain to him easier. Let’s take an ammeter and a voltmeter, connect it according to the scheme as it should with a load resistor, and star about 310 watts. punish
New Standard
In zero gravity it will be difficult for you to generate in a way that there will be no fulcrum, there will be reactive forces in different directions
This is you demand from the astronautsandthose about exercise bikes on the ISS!
New Standard
Well, if there is no understanding, then let's do this:
Well, if there is no understanding, then let's do this: you are interested in a specific useful power generated specific generator in specific conditions? Then formulate a real problem with real initial data!
A small cycle generator for 6 V, 3 W ... gives 74 V and 4.2 A, which is 310 W
I understand correctly, 74 V is the open circuit voltage, the EMF is without load, and 4.2 A is the short circuit current, for example, by the shunt of the ammeter itself? Then none is 310 W, because with a short circuit current, the voltage at the generator output will be meager, insufficient for practical use.
30% is my condition
I ask again, where did the figure come from? You will not ride a bicycle if a third of your muscular effort is not spent on moving forward! scratch
Author
As for the master, who got it all, he is a fool or a bastard. A master is a person who applies his knowledge, mind and skillful hands for the benefit of society, and does not powder his consciousness.
-With such logic, everyone who does something non-standard, fools and scum.
New Standard, I don’t have a book on VAZs at hand right now. Quickly looked at one forum, there a man writes that, like, 42 amperes are kept by the generator according to the factory documentation, and after repair it only has 25A. We multiply roughly 14 volts by 42 amperes and we get only 588 watts, and he said that according to my measurements it turned out 1.5 kW on two identical generators. Even if the engine is 57 kW, it means that it does not transmit all the energy to the generator. At the beginning of the house, I tested and twisted the generator with a German 650W drill. Hands almost twisted from the resistance that the generator provided. And the load was just a car bulb 10 W, 12 V. In addition, for a start, it was necessary to apply 12 V at a current of 1A from a laboratory power supply unit.If we are to return energy back, it is more correct to do this bypassing the mechanical components. I wrote earlier that I dabbled with the return of the coil energy back to the power source and got very high, but less than 100% efficiency, but not 30% either. I did not use an oscillatory circuit, but the EMF of the self-induction coil. If I find my notebook with circuits of this homemade product, maybe I’ll publish it under the name “Eternal engine” smile Recently, an idea came to my mind and I had an interesting experience. Directly connected one motor to another. Imagine, I rotated the shaft of one motor and transmitted the generated energy to another motor through the wires and it rotated! Without power sources, the direction of rotation could also change speed! And on 2 wires to transmit rotation from motor to motor!
New Standard. About 5 years ago, he collected a Gaussian gun. He shot nails at beer cans, cardboard boxes. Punched. And I want to note, the manufacturing time for the shot (charging a high voltage capacitor) was only a few seconds from the finger batteries. But on this, I froze this work because I learned that in order to further increase the power of this weapon, you will have to install several solenoids, capacitors and a complex control circuit that commutes the circuit as the projectile accelerates. Difficult. It’s easier to assemble a firearm. And in the railgun (with which the Americans are experimenting) another principle is applied. I didn’t try to collect this, but I watched a video and read articles.
R555 Did you burn that 1.5 kW was generated on a VAZ engine? But the VAZ engine has how many cognacs, it seems 77 hp, somewhere around 57 kW, why do you have only 1.5 kW? I do not quite understand, there with 30% load you can generate 20 kW!
It is better to try from a railgun. True, for a single shot, a small city will have to be disconnected from the power supply.
Valery In, in, I also thought about the Gaus Cannon, a good thing. The Americans recently conducted an electromagnetic gun test, figachit, give the way, not weakly, and gunpowder is not necessary, only a power outlet, or just carry a solar panel with a gun)).
There is an interesting question about the registration of such a converted to an electric car, probably no traffic police will register it for any money
Korolev Well, if there is no understanding, then let's do this: Calculate what power is needed to drive a 130 kg bicycle in a straight line to a speed of 70 km / h? (Or do you don’t need weight here?) (30% is my condition, since you cannot take 100% of the power, because then the bike’s speed will drop to 0, and then it’s impossible to take data, so you need to take no more than 50%). it will be difficult to generate because there will be no fulcrum, there will be reactive forces in different directions
Guest Oleg
On a converted car, it is generally forbidden to move along the roadway, since it is technically not working according to the traffic rules and has a design change. To legitimize all changes will take a lot of dough and time. Return everything as is and install HBO in a certified center. As for the master, who got it all, he is a fool or a bastard. A master is a person who applies his knowledge, mind and skillful hands for the benefit of society, and does not powder his consciousness.
New Standard. Still, I have doubts that you correctly measured the voltage and current. As it turned out, the voltage of a 6-volt generator became 72 volts, even if you rush from a mountain. And I asked to measure the resistance of the winding in the cold state. It will immediately become clear whether a weak generator can develop gigantic power. What they wrote, as one was already burned, is closer to the truth.
put weak motor from a Chinese blender with ogro-oh-ohm turns - and voila !!! We remove two kilowatts (enough revolutions, constructive - too
The construct is not enough! By constructive power is also meant windings!
The rest, Korolev said, is not important!
Korolev did not say that! He said:
impossible to consume more than generate!
dance2
Valery
Well ... Let's do this: The generator has RATED power higher than the power of your drill ... As a load - KZ! ...
And let's try better this way: we take a specific cycle generator, a specific transmission of rotation of the wheel — the generator shaft, a specific one, not a short circuit, because we are interested in the power useful for use, in this particular case for recharging the battery, and try to answer the specifically asked question:
help calculate the power ... What power does the generator give out?
The New Standard is trying to prove that the power generated by a particular bicycle generator on a particular bicycle depends on the weight of the cyclist and the bicycle!
a bicycle with a cyclist weighs 130 kg, travels at a speed of 70 km / h (19.5 m / s), a generator that stands on a wheel can use only 30% of that power. What power does the generator give out? ... potential energy = mgh
Are you sure that the power applied to the generator shaft has nothing to do with it, only revolutions are important
But I did not state this, for:
The rotor speed of the generator rotor is provided by a certain force exerted by the tire cover on the driven wheel on the rotor shaft
smile
So I'm thinking about putting pistons on the solenoids xaxa

And if you shoot pistons from a Gaus gun ???
P.S. Feel for the idea !.)))) Lviv.))))
Well, well ... Let's do this:
The generator has RATED power higher than the power of your drill ... As a load - KZ! ...
Well, well ... Try to twist ...)))
It should work out if you are sure that the power applied to the generator shaft has nothing to do with it, only the revolutions are important))))
Well, perpetum mobile!)))) We take a gas generator, throw out the internal combustion engine, put a weak-and-abenky motor from a Chinese blender with ogro-oh-ohm turns - and voila !!! We take off two kilowatts (enough speed, constructive too. The rest, Korolev said, it doesn’t matter!))))), Of these, however, we give 40 watts to the motor !!! .. But there are also a lot of 1960 free ones ....
Hurrah!!! It's good that you prompted me ...))))
P.S. A joke of humor, if cho ....)))
Valery
Something tells me that if the load connected to the generator is more than a drill in terms of power cut off
Something tells me that it is impossible to consume more than generate! Well, if only to steal! smile
New Standard
help calculate the power ... What power produces generator?
130 kg, travels at a speed of 70 km / h (19.5 m / s), generator what is standing on the wheel can use only 30%
This is why such a fright generator power
the output power will depend on the weight of the bike
And where did you get 30%? And in zero gravity (theoretically) a generator will not be able to generate electricity? Well, or more mundane, if I lift the wheel of a bicycle and make my grandson pedal? The speed is zero, the cyclist’s weight does not affect him at all, the energy is generated!
You mean, why not experiment outside, but at home?
No, I meant that your weight does not have a decisive influence on the electric power generated by the generator! Better, under all equal conditions, experiment with wheel diameters! I repeat again: generator power, due to the design of the generator (within its strength), the rotor speed, and does not depend on the load on the axles of the wheels! A light cyclist (kid), on a light bike, possibly with large wheel diameters, will spin the generator rotor to high speeds!
In field conditions it’s still interesting to see how the driving speed drops, then you can indirectly determine the total muscle power at a speed
No way, it will slip!
there is a pressing force of 200 grams
smile
Something tells me that if the load connected to the generator is more than a drill in terms of power cut off, nothing will come of it)))))))
Korolev "I will hang a great one on the wall, spin the wheel with a drill and squeeze the maximum out of the generator!" Hello again)). You mean, why not experiment on the street, but at home? Yes, you can set the generator shaft to a drill (chuck), I did so, but it will give a maximum of 50 r / s, and at a speed of 300-350 r / s, the accuracy is lost in interpolation. In the field, it’s still interesting to see how the driving speed drops, then you can indirectly determine the total muscle power at speed, this will not work with a drill. If you put the gears (on the wheel and the generator) then you do not need to press with force
New Standard
(speed to power is power) ... I meant that in addition to the rotation speed of the generator, you must also apply force to it (as a component of the rotational generation process)
Well hello! The rotor speed of the generator rotor is provided by a certain force exerted by the tire cover on the driven wheel on the rotor shaft,
he himself is pressed by a small spring, there is a pressing force of 200 grams
Well, where does your weight come from? A kid on a light bike can develop baboutlower speed of the bike, and therefore the rotor of the generator! This is if you did not like the example of a bicycle hanging on the wall, there, by the way, you can developaboutthe best speed, and, as a result, baboutlow power! Within the strength of the generator itself and the bike, of course! scratch
R555 Nobody wants to count something, they’re leaving, then I’ll take it again to check it in practice, right there while the asphalt surface is being repaired on that hill right now, figs are done. In order not to burn the generator, I will put fuses, and gradually increase the rating. Thank you for respect, dear R555. But the truth is more expensive))
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